Hello!

You've landed in the archive of the Cambrian House community. We've kept some pages here for posterity but the community is no longer active. Now we market the technology that made our early crowdsourcing a success.

Can we help you get to Cambrian House the company? – Come on over.

Are you seeking crowdsourcing technology? – Check out Chaordix by Cambrian House.

Thanks for dropping by
The Cambrian House Crew

Close [x]
Cambrian House

A market is never saturated with a good product, but it is very quickly saturated with a bad one.
Henry Ford

Cambrian House began as a crowdsourcing community using a wisdom of crowds based approach to discover new business and technology ideas. These pages are being kept online as a technology demo to showcase Chaordix™.

Looking to harness the power of your crowd? Find out about Chaordix™ - technology that enables enterprises to get the most out of crowdsourcing.

Auction based bazaar. eBay for crowdsourcing.

zer0
zer0 is offlineSend a Message to zer0Add zer0 as a FriendSend a Hat Tip to zer0
  • Submitted by: zer0
  • Created: Mar 9, 2008, 2:55 pm
  • Share on Facebook
  • Promote
 

Join Cambrian House

People

Ideas

Businesses

Connect with talented people. Collaborate on ideas. Realize your vision.
It's free! Like love in the sixties!

The Elevator Pitch

For competitive Cambrian House users who want people to compete for a spot in their companies the auction system is a service that allows users to bid on each others services and work requests. Unlike the current bazaar our product alows users to get both the best price and the best service with out much effort.

The Idea

Cambrian House is awesome right? I thought so. But what if there was a bidding system in the Bazaar? Where people can post what they need done, set a maximum price and let other community members bid on the task. While I would like to work with the Cambrian House developers I don't see it happening just yet so in an effort to catch their attention here I am posting my idea on their own website.

The bidding system would be like eBay except in reverse instead of the price growing it would drop and people would set their minimum bid and the bidding system would automatically bid down to that minimum bid.
The reverse could be used for someone trying to sell their services where as the winner would be the highest bidder.

However unlike eBay there would be one major difference. The auction poster would not have to choose the lowest bidder (or highest bidder for sellers) They would be given a list of all the bidders and their lowest bid and get to choose the one they want.

I thought of this idea when I was...

Back in 2006 as I was graduating high school I was looking for free lance work to do only to find that in my small town there really wasn't anything to do. So I looked to the internet only to find that there was work but it was so spread out and hard to find.

I originally came up with an idea much like Cambrian House except with a bidding system but could never get anywhere with the idea.

Then yesterday I stumbled upon Cambrian House, they have everything I wanted except the bidding system so here I am seeing if that idea can make it past the community and maybe become a part of Cambrian House or my own solution.


Comments Posted

Brenden
Brenden Posted: March 9, 2008, 7:06 pm

You should look at elance.com and odesk.com.
They are both outsourcing websites where you post projects and people bid on them.

Brenden
Brenden Posted: March 9, 2008, 7:08 pm

That being said you could still compete. There is always room, the question is how would you be different?

Brenden
http://www.crowdsourcethis.com

vanhees
vanhees Posted: March 10, 2008, 8:21 am

I was also thinking of http://www.elance.com for this kind of services.

What I don't understand is why you want a bidding system if the user doesnt have to take the winning bid.
Tommy

zer0
zer0 Posted: March 10, 2008, 12:05 pm

The way it would be designed is so that 70/80% of auctions would choose the winning bid however the ability to choose another one of the bids is in case the winner doesn't have a good reputation or doesn't follow through.

odesk actually seems to have about 90% of my ideas however it seems to be a bit less intuitive than I want my solution to be I also want a community much like Cambrian House has and after my short look Im not sure ether of the two mentioned solutions offer that.

Kevin_Cox
Kevin_Cox Posted: March 12, 2008, 12:07 pm

There are a hand full of sites that do this. It all depends on what project you want to get done.

GroundLoad
GroundLoad Posted: March 12, 2008, 3:26 pm

"sigh" Just because something has been done before - does not mean it won't succeed. It doesn't need to be such a common response around here.

Google is a search engine, it's "been done", when they received funding. Put a small twist on a "been done" and it can make a world of difference. Decent idea I say.

Kevin_Cox
Kevin_Cox Posted: March 12, 2008, 6:28 pm

I completely agree with you GroundLoad. As I said it completely depends on what project you want to get done.

interviewables
interviewables Posted: March 14, 2008, 7:46 am

I understand the best price part in the pitch but how do I know I will get the best service?

zer0
zer0 Posted: March 14, 2008, 12:08 pm

Your point intervierwables is the exact reason you don't have to choose the lowest bid. If for example the person who wins the lowest bid has a very low rating or if they don't do the job you can choose to have one of the higher priced bidders with a better rating do the work for you. And they will win the auction instead.

As a precaution so that new users can still get work every new user will start out with a 50% rating because if everyone has no rating when they start than people may be reluctant to choose new users to do their jobs. And the last thing I want is for new users to be left out.

interviewables
interviewables Posted: March 14, 2008, 4:34 pm

I gotcha. A rating system.I think some have missed the part about this not being stand alone but part of CH.

zer0
zer0 Posted: March 14, 2008, 6:40 pm

I think this would be a good part of CH however it is possible for this to be on its own. The biggest reason I would like it to be a part of CH is because of the community and because I think the current bazaar is lacking.

As an example for how it may integrate in to the CH community is for example posting a job position. People could include their resumes and qualifications in their bid.

Regardless of being a part of CH or not I would probably use a monitory system similar to cambros as a way of handling money. I would also have a type of escrow system in the service so that once the auction is won the money is put in to the escrow and once the product is provided the money is transfered to the winner.

stevesitv
stevesitv Posted: March 18, 2008, 8:35 am

Could work for CH too if implemented like RentACoder:

http://rentacoder.com

There you have to put the money in escrow once you find the best candidate and agree on the price. How would this be handled in CH?

GordonMcDowell
GordonMcDowell Posted: March 19, 2008, 7:51 am

zer0, at first I thought this wouldn't help because I'd expect most of the work agreements on CH2 would eventually depend on a deeper spec than presented in the Bazaar and a on-click agreement. Private messages would be exchanged, needs clarified, and (possibly non-Cambro) payment mechanism agreed to.

But maybe the reverse auction itself is a means by which those extra pieces of information could be communicated.

That it would be non-binding would be key. Perhaps not even a deadline. The project lead could monitor bids, and strike up conversations with the current lowest bidder.

In terms of (Stevesitv) concerns about escrow and even ratings... well Laura is currently making water cooler comments deletable (due to spam). Any non-deleteable comment opportunity can be spammed, so we could look at keeping watercooler comments permanent (and keep manually purging spam), or I'd need some new idea how to handle a feedback loop.

So in a nutshell, I think the value here is allowing members to strike up conversations about specific jobs, with the topic being the developer's tentative bid.

Brainstorm any options on this? Like a bidder might want to put a date range on a work offer. So might the seller. But I'd likely let them put such details in a comment field rather than specific fields. Date filtering would be nice, but we'd need to keep the coding effort minimal to implement this.

zer0
zer0 Posted: April 7, 2008, 8:47 pm

wow i actually got attention of CH. Im pleased. I kinda gave up on my idea after it was established that there where already services marketing in this area.

Gordon i think you touched on another idea thats well out of this ones range. I do agree though that an improved messaging system would make the bazaar much more useful. The ability to send messages between people with the message being tagged with the item for sale on the bazaar would be an improvement however you seem to already have those ideas and honestly my idea isn't of much use until improved communication is implemented. So maybe you can let me know if i can help you out when it becomes time.

 

Post A Comment

Got something to say?
Log in to post a comment.