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For everyone who are looking for a portable "think tank" to store and organize their thoughts and ideas the ThinkTank is a Flash "widget" that organizes an idea digitally and provides collaborative tools to expand and develop the idea further. Unlike MindMeister our product provides a new and interactive solution to the computerized development of ideas and collaborative techniques that will bring new ideas to the surface of the human mind.

The Idea

ThinkTank is a portable stand-alone "widget" that provides people with an easy to use and interactive solution to organize their thoughts and manage ideas.

A thought starts with the initial idea(text) trapped in a bubble. All you do to create another thought is click outside of that bubble, and a new one will form with a blank text box. You can also choose to create bubble groups(a bunch of blank thought bubbles pre-connected).

To connect one thought to another either: 1)Drag one thought bubble to the related bubble and a link will form automatically and re-organize as appropriate, 2)"Tag" the idea (like Blogger.com does with posts) and the link will be created to all other thoughts with the same tag and re-organized.

The more connections to a bubble, the bigger it gets. Users can also rate the relevance of the thought bubble to the overall idea, which will, in effect, change it's size as well.

The ThinkTank has collaborative features and is free for personal use

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I thought of this idea when I was...

Reviewing comments on a CH idea and frustrated I couldn't just drag a comment to my "Thought Pool" to organize new additions or expand on the comment.

Again frustrated when visualizing a new concept with a friend of mine on a marker-board, and then having to retype everything into the computer.


Comments Posted

Rich2809
Rich2809 Posted: November 23, 2007, 3:22 pm

I like this idea. So many great ideas just seem to drift here. A tool to hone them would be good. Even a change to CH whereby the competition was every two weeks might help

JelmerBV
JelmerBV Posted: November 24, 2007, 5:55 am

The forum already does (partly) what you're saying here.

DrV
DrV Posted: November 24, 2007, 8:50 am

It is very hard to build an idea withiout seeing the bigger picture. Within a forum it involves a lot of scrolling to content that you cannot see. This provides a hole for people to fall into when thinking about other parts of the idea. If you could see all aspects of the idea in a much more generalized format you would be amazed at how much more you get accomplished

daretoeatapeach
daretoeatapeach Posted: November 25, 2007, 8:17 pm

Social networking via flowchart. I like it.

Magickaito
Magickaito Posted: November 26, 2007, 12:27 pm

Sounds like this is trying to visualize the idea enhancement process by bubbles? Am I right?

siddey
siddey Posted: November 27, 2007, 4:50 am

Hmmm - not a business / crowdsourceable idea in itself but still something worth considering for CH3.0. I'm a big fan of visualisation as a communication / analysis tool. Are there any pre-existing AJAX'y type controls CH could leverage?

Anyway - how about posting this in the forum thread for CH3 suggestions instead?

DrV
DrV Posted: November 27, 2007, 9:54 am

How bout providing the link for that thread to save me some time?

TravellingGuy
TravellingGuy Posted: November 28, 2007, 6:35 pm

I like this. You could probably accomplish much of this with PM's, wiki, forums, etc., but visualizing it as bubbles for various aspects of it, using ACL's to control who sees what, etc.

Nice.

siddey
siddey Posted: November 28, 2007, 7:30 pm
LarsBell
LarsBell Posted: November 29, 2007, 12:45 am

I'm going to give this 1 starz as an Idea Warz entry.

But I would give it 5 starz to include in CH3.0

I like pictures.

siddey
siddey Posted: November 29, 2007, 6:08 am

I totally agree with Larsbell & Travellingguy. This is a great concept and would look good sitting on Gord's must-do list for CH3.0.

GordonMcDowell
GordonMcDowell Posted: November 29, 2007, 4:57 pm

DrV, I'm not sure I'd go so far as to provide positive reinforcement for each bubble added. Just as our current 1 comment = 1 gp reward system might be inspiring some weird behavior, you might have people going bubble crazy.

If we build such a device for CH3, I think a challenge would be the qualitative feedback on each "bubble" or sub-idea proposed. maybe they fade out the lamer they are deemed?

DrV
DrV Posted: November 29, 2007, 9:46 pm

I was thinking more along the lines of a moderated bubble system, where the idea maker has complete control. So they can add/remove contributors, as well as approve/disapprove bubble creations/comments, etc.

I was not thinking this as a communal idea builder, although that may be a fairly viable solution to complex problem solving. Possibly the start to a new idea? Meh, up for exploitation.

VizionQuest
VizionQuest Posted: November 30, 2007, 11:36 am

I like it, it sounds like mind mapping software similar to Freemind but with a social twist.

http://freemind.sour.../index.php/Main_Page

Goosie
Goosie Posted: November 30, 2007, 2:45 pm

Goto: http://cmap.ihmc.us/

Download and install.
Click left on Cmap Public Map
Search on CambrianMap.

Finisch the brainmap:-)

Perry

CyberCerberus
CyberCerberus Posted: December 1, 2007, 12:35 am

I suggest you check out MindMeister:

http://www.mindmeister.com

I think it would provide what you need.

siddey
siddey Posted: December 1, 2007, 6:29 am

I don't think the objective is a traditional mindmap implementation. Most of the online versions are horrible and yes, I'm willing to admit they lack "polish". A 3rd party flash control would be nice.

The freemind flash interface is UGLY so some effort on the UI would make the difference.

I think this needs to forget the textbook implementation and design a new interface that is more flexible and user friendly.

DrV
DrV Posted: December 1, 2007, 12:56 pm

siddy you nailed it.

I liked the idea behind MindMeister, but it is too busy yet not elaborate enough. What I was thinking was more focus involved. So depending on where someone has their mouse, more connections would show, hide what isn't relevant, and move the whole map to the users focus. Then you could use the mouse scroll, or some other key combination, to zoom in/out which would simply expand your map. This could be turned off at any time so that you browse to wherever you'd like. Also, I'm trying to maintain the idea of using bubbles to encapsulate distinguishable sections of the idea. So the bigger the bubble, the more connections it has to it showing that it is more prevalent. The size could also be controlled through user ratings and comments. Also, I was thinking that "tags" (like used here on CH) could be helpful so a contributor could tag a bubble, and the program would associate the bubble with a more general outline, and even make connections to other bubbles automatically. That way the technical architecture of the idea could be built simply by placing a "technical" tag. Then the program could take the tags following "technical" to connect it with other technical bubbles. So, say for instance you have a technical contributor that knows about web application development, they could start to create the design simply by using tags. So, say you are creating a website where every user has their own store you could submit the following tag: "technical client interface storefront", to create ideas for the design of the a customers storefront in a more technical manner. Then it would be very easy to take this information to create a more formal program design outline.

DavidDubree
DavidDubree Posted: December 6, 2007, 5:39 pm

Yes. I love the idea. I have been looing for something like this. Thaere are a few out there but just not really usable the way I want to use it. Not easy enough to do, not the right options, ugly, etc.

Flash controls yes.
Zoom yes.
Rotate yes.
Link various bubbles like a relational database, showing those links, yes.

Yes.

DrV
DrV Posted: January 30, 2008, 11:00 pm

OK. There's been some major revisions done to my previous entry: Brainstormer.

I would just like to note that by using solely Flash and some mind-grease, this is essentially a piece of software that can be used as a:
1) Stand-alone application (e.g. Microsoft Word)
2) Web-application (e.g. MindMeister.com); the website itself will be a community of visionaries that can use community ThinkTanks to solve the worlds problems. In these versions, the thought bubbles can have comments associated with it to create a forum type of evironment. Think of every bubble as thread, and every bubble group (i.e. tag) as a topic.
3) Cell phone application (specifically new touch screen phones like the iPhone)
4) An internet "widget" to be used in FaceBook, MySpace, or anywhere else on the web you choose. The splash screen displays a quote of the day to get your mind moving and motivated. Click the quote and an easy login pops up providing you with the ability to lock up your ideas.

Revenue Streams:
1) Stand-alone adds (every so many times of opening the desktop version a video advertisement will be displayed)
2) Web adds.
3) Widget adds (will interchange with quotes)
4) Cell adds (certain number of seconds after splash screen)

Plug-N-Play to start your day. ThinkTank is on the way.

tlyden
tlyden Posted: February 1, 2008, 3:16 pm
DrV
DrV Posted: February 1, 2008, 5:32 pm

Just nearly, but now I can use it as a visual reference :)

Thanks.

w00dstock
w00dstock Posted: February 6, 2008, 7:31 pm

so how is your idea different than http://www.bubbl.us/index conceptually?

I dont get it

looks like it has already been made

can you please differentiate your idea?

also, can you get a live example online so we can see the idea in action?

DrV
DrV Posted: February 7, 2008, 2:06 am

There's no search! What happens if you've got 500 bubbles?

http://www.bubbl.us/index is a "mind-map" implementation to thought organization, objectification, and flow. ThinkTank is a unique solution of interactivity bridging thought creation and organization with a visual search utility. All you'll have to do is start typing in the search bar and thoughts related to what your typing will start to appear. The search can either be done on the thoughts themselves, or on the "tags" associated with each thought. Imagine what it would be like to tunnel through the neural network of your brain. The programming will be based off of this network and the way in which it associates and interconnects thoughts. Hence, the more connections a bubble has, the bigger in size it becomes. I'm thinking you could also have this type of functionality set up with colors instead of sizing the bubble (possibly even have an option to do either one or both).

I'll have an example up soon.

solstikan
solstikan Posted: February 8, 2008, 7:32 pm

Like this idea a lot, I'm curious to see the exemple.

zerobeta
zerobeta Posted: February 8, 2008, 9:23 pm

I think the idea is interesting, but I have some concerns not as much with this idea but the idea of mind mapping and thought tools in general.

First off I don't think it is much different than a comment thread, except in the nature it is displayed. While the structure can help create a better "process" it can also create a endgame that is much more of a stream of conciousness than something practical and goal oriented. The idea of web 2.0 and 3.0 is to take this enormous amount of information and organize it and make it useful, essentially creating order from chaos. The think tank takes what would otherwise be a simple thought and adds tons of noise and complexity around it with different connectors and multiple hierarchies. In Washington, it usually adds a degree of "spin"and distorts the truth - and will do the same in cyberspace. The marginal value added after the first or second "piggyback" diminishes quickly as people feel a need to "add" something to the process and make things more complex. I mean, look what I am doing now. I would think taking comment threads and summarizing them and mashing together good thoughts from similar threads would be much more attractive.

Second, I don't really see how it makes money. If people become involved for some kind of marketing purpose it dilutes the entire value of the process as motives become unclear. If it some sort of "tagged" content that will bring eyes and advertising dollars, since most tags occur as you get further out on the bubble, the value of any sort of hit becomes smaller. Think about when you search for something that is sort of obscure, and you a link that doesn't appear to have anything to do with what you are searching for, and low and behold you click on it and its mentioned in some comment that has very little do with what you were originally searching for.

Just as comment threads are sometimes a big self-absorbed love fest that only sometimes adds more complexity. Commenters either rehash what the author says with some pointless clarification or takes the other side of the argument to be contrarian (perhaps like this).

I do however think there is an opportunity in weaving together specific comments and blog posts into some comprehensive "greatest hits" conversation that filters out as much noise as possible.

PhilipH
PhilipH Posted: February 10, 2008, 2:35 pm

I'm with solstikan - I like the idea in theory, but a simple prototype would explain its usefulness far better than talking about it.

fossiloflife
fossiloflife Posted: February 12, 2008, 1:43 am

i like this idea but as said before it will good application in CH3.0

vanhees
vanhees Posted: February 12, 2008, 5:22 am

CH is about crowdsourcing, addign al this features would make it very 'heavy' and the unserinterface would take longer to learn.
So either is a add-on that you can use, or better not

stevesitv
stevesitv Posted: February 12, 2008, 12:41 pm

Would work perfectly for me with auto-tagging/linking and as a mac/pc/linux app. I'd pay for that!

CharonV
CharonV Posted: February 12, 2008, 2:51 pm

Looking forward to seeing your Prototype, this sounds very interesting.

Perky
Perky Posted: April 7, 2008, 4:34 am

You could go onto something bigger here.
You said you want a 'visual search', just type a word/s and ideas related will start to show as you type, however this means each idea needs Tags and if words were searched within the idea it might not always be in the right context.
However if an algorithm could be invented that searches ideas and automatically assigns the context it's in you'd have a new Google on your hands.

 

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