I see now this problem: how do you know the person on the other side is who he/she is.
I could see another site where you can rent people that 'get you the job'.
But I like the idea, Tommy

5 years?.... ok good try for IDEA weeklywarz...keep this entered..you might find the answers in the weeks to come.

Godspeed!

AKA Inturn

@vanhees -> "how do you know the person..." -> let'im do all only in front of a webcam.

This has potential. How about a live interview? A system where you are asked to perform some tasks in a limited amount of time, answer some questions... interactivity is the key here to develop trust... you can see the guy ...

can be done.

Would applicants be tested once (or perhaps once in each of a number of categories/skills) and the results stored, or would they have to be evaluated for each position? Potential employers would obviously value the ability to set a custom test for their position, but applicants might get a little frustrated with all of the jumping-through-hoops that ensues... Perhaps you could have a basic set of tests that applicants complete on registration but also allow employers to set their own custom tests to a shortlist of applicants?

As for how to make it profitable, I believe that most jobsearch websites are financed by making employers pay to list positions, but you should be able to check that out easily enough. Obviously, employers would pay more to set custom tests to shortlisted applicants, and perhaps the applicants themselves would get a cut to encourage them to take part?

good logo... I need a job so go for it. lol

RE: "Would applicants be tested once (or perhaps once in each of a number of categories/skills) and the results stored, or would they have to be evaluated for each position? Potential employers would obviously value the ability to set a custom test for their position, but applicants might get a little frustrated with all of the jumping-through-hoops that ensues... Perhaps you could have a basic set of tests that applicants complete on registration but also allow employers to set their own custom tests to a shortlist of applicants?

As for how to make it profitable, I believe that most jobsearch websites are financed by making employers pay to list positions, but you should be able to check that out easily enough. Obviously, employers would pay more to set custom tests to shortlisted applicants, and perhaps the applicants themselves would get a cut to encourage them to take part?"

The idea is to get the employers test you for each position they post. For instance if they need a web designer, they shall post together with their job description, a simple task related with web design. Nothing too complicated... this can be easily automated for any kind of design-related task. All tasks performed by the applicants will be stored so it can be easily accessed by employers taking a look into the profiles database.
Yes, you are right, the employers shall be the ones who pay for this system. All applicants will have free access to the site and (sorry) no profits goes to them. The reason is because through market research, I know even applicants are willing to pay for having an improvement on their chances to get a job.

RE: "I see now this problem: how do you know the person on the other side is who he/she is. I could see another site where you can rent people that 'get you the job'. But I like the idea, Tommy"

Well, this problem exists in any web site and solving it is not the aim of this system. The target is having a tool which can increase your chances to get a job within the creative market based in your skills rather than in what you put on your CV. Either way, there will be always a way of cheating. Nonetheless, that depends on the integrity of each person.

RE: "@vanhees -> "how do you know the person..." -> let'im do all only in front of a webcam. This has potential. How about a live interview? A system where you are asked to perform some tasks in a limited amount of time, answer some questions... interactivity is the key here to develop trust... you can see the guy ... can be done. "

The employer will give you a task, an amount of time and you have to upload the results. Simple as that. Later on, KPIs (Key performance indicators) will allow the employer see who completed the task faster and who delivered the best results. Nonetheless, no tasks should be performed in front of a webcam. I like the idea of the webcam, though, this could be used as a virtual interview (thank you man!) after the employer decides you are a suitable candidate. God knows this can be time saver... specially if you are willing to move for getting the job.

RE: "good logo... I need a job so go for it. lol"

Sorry, not sure if it was ironic. I know the logo sucks. My corporate image is still "on pampers" because I'm still missing a good name for it. Something easy to remember. GetNoted! was the first thing which came into my mind for posting this idea.

I think its already been done manually where people apply for a job on a website, and the potential employer fires off some questions and assignments to be submitted via email ASAP. But it seems like it would be difficult to automate or make any easier than have the employer manage this themselves.

What is the entire workflow for this on the employer's end?

How are you helping the process scale? Primarily by consolidating all the submissions?

This might create more work for everyone involved, wouldn't it?

There is more to an employee than just their creativity. I think if a "creative" has the competency to successfully complete an application process, that is a good sign for any employer.

Extreme pressure may also not be the best environment to submit quality work.

Thanks for responding to my above comment. Having read the updated (I think!) description, it seems a bit odd to set people tasks like this as a way of catching those who otherwise wouldn't be considered because they've made mistakes in the application process. If I was looking for someone to design and write copy for my website then yes I'd be interested in knowing how they can complete a task under timed conditions, but if they can't - or don't care enough to - write a presentation letter with no time pressure they'd have to do VERY well at the task to be in with a chance!

There are already methods for measuring quality and performance. Software engineering methods for software related jobs.

ok i like your idea!

n as the focus is on creative professionals.. i agree that time plays an important task! but i dont think your statement on how long it took him or her to do the portfolio or website dsnt make sense to me! as good work takes time and thinkin! and especially when one is doin stuff for oneself it take a hell lot of time! time is limited but judging on time factor for good proffesinals is a bad idea according to me!

but your idea is too good! need to be refined good!

RE: "There are already methods for measuring quality and performance. Software engineering methods for software related jobs."

I know. This site has nothing to do with software engineering evaluation. It's about people.

RE:"n as the focus is on creative professionals.. i agree that time plays an important task! but i dont think your statement on how long it took him or her to do the portfolio or website dsnt make sense to me! as good work takes time and thinkin! and especially when one is doin stuff for oneself it take a hell lot of time! time is limited but judging on time factor for good proffesinals is a bad idea according to me!"

Please don't misunderstand me. I personally know how much time and effort can take to build a good online portfolio, which is very important to show the quality of your work. The aim of this site is increasing the interaction between employer and potential employee. The tasks will allow employers to evaluate how fast can a person come up with a solution for a determinate situation. Eventually, the results will show which candidates came up with the better solution in less time. Although I'm aware that only time cannot be an evaluation factor, it is really important -in early stages of a project- that you come with some good ideas really fast. It's kind of a brainstorming session.
You are right though, the idea needs refining still.

RE:"This might create more work for everyone involved, wouldn't it?
There is more to an employee than just their creativity. I think if a "creative" has the competency to successfully complete an application process, that is a good sign for any employer.Extreme pressure may also not be the best environment to submit quality work."

In some stage, candidates will have to make tests. It helps employers get better insight concerning their employees and prospective employees. This site will have one of such tests beforehand and well, unfortunately, we all have to show how good we are under tight schedules. In our times, you have to be good AND fast.

I believe that LinkedIn provides a good list of talents, a great way to connect to other professionals, and the ability to add links to your online portfolio (for creative professionals).

Why all the job site ideas! WHY!!!! This ideas have all ready been done or have no logical reason to be made.

Might be hard for busy employers to take the time to produce a test based on their requirements. I can see you adding value by being the one to interpret employer's job requirements - translate into performance based objective that are measurable - then produce a test based upon agreed standards (again that you would produce). Now this is saving employers time and helping to ensure that they get an employee that is most likely to meet their requirements.
Just my thoughts.

RE: "Why all the job site ideas! WHY!!!! This ideas have all ready been done or have no logical reason to be made."

In one thing you are right. It has been done before and all current job-related sites are alike. All are just a virtual version of the jobs section of any newspaper. My site is aimed to optimize the current recruitment process.

RE: "Might be hard for busy employers to take the time to produce a test based on their requirements. I can see you adding value by being the one to interpret employer's job requirements - translate into performance based objective that are measurable - then produce a test based upon agreed standards (again that you would produce). Now this is saving employers time and helping to ensure that they get an employee that is most likely to meet their requirements.
Just my thoughts."

Indeed, my friend. You hit the core of this idea. The site will save time to the busy employer whilst providing extra information so they can make a more accurate decision.

You need the people to provide content and options for employers, so money should be generated from the asking party.

Companies can pay to place job adverts or create a profile, etc etc.

Instead of letting people do the same thing (or pretty similar thing) over and over again, give them once an hour to show what they can do and let them put that online.

There is one problem though. It's not all about how quick something is done. Sometimes its more desirable to have something better, but took longer to create. This is something that should be taken into account.

This idea didn't win last round... How has this idea changed since then?