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I've been researching this idea for 2.5 years now.
My idea is this if a child goes missing, abducted, lost, etc can technology of today find this child within time?
I have asked linux programers, engineers, network admins, etc only to be replyed by the same phrase, "not possible"
There may be ethical issues like will parents agree to have their children technologically tagged?
There are Technological issues how do you tag a child without the abductor knowing it?
And then there is the Network, what Network in Montreal can survey a tagged child that has gone missing?
Many issues yes but maybe with crowd sourcing anything is possible.
I thought of this idea about 2.5 years ago when many people in Montreal began to organize community groups.
And I thought that an Amber Alert is not a gouvernment problem, nor a city problem, its a community problem, the community must find a solution.
Through technological advancement and improvements in GPS, RFID, Network deployment, can there be a solution?
I think its possible that in 2010 we will no longer need an Amber Alert for Children in Montreal.
The solution may help people with Mental illness, the elderly, pets, etc.
I'm almost sure that's at least possible (if you turn your mobile phone on, you also could be tracked down.)
"There may be ethical issues like will parents agree to have their children technologically tagged?"
Yes, I think this will be the biggest problem. But there will also be many parents which really want to do this.
"There are Technological issues how do you tag a child without the abductor knowing it?"
You should use a very small tracking device, maybe under the skin or something like that...
Anyway; I like your idea, but I think I should leave this to the experts.
Read http://www.rfidgazet...now_heres_how_t.html
for what is possible already...
Tommy
BTW if ypur sneakers are tagged with RFID it can be done already without you knowing.
Tommy
RFID tracking involves a LOT of receivers. What you need is GPS tracking. Also, there are all ready professional gps tracking devices.
Is it just me or is this like the other sock tagging system.
who is gonna pay for it?
Also, other could crack into this data and then use it for other bad purposes.
Check a previous topic reply:
There was a couple in England who implanted a microchip in their daughter in case she went missing back in 2002(?). There was a huge uproar over the ethics of it.
When I bought my daughter her latest cell phone, I could buy one that I could track. I just went on to a website and put in the code and it would tell me where she was within so many metres. I didn't buy it. I don't care where her cell phone is (It's in her backpack.), want to know where she is and I don't plan on implanting her with a chip anytime soon.
Maybe we could make underwear with a homing device?
tlyden, parents pay big $$$ to keep their kids safe...
now that i official understand this... the tech exists- it is available through vets... take your kids to your doggie doctor and have them implanted
as for paying for it, yes RICH parents can pay for this
Hmmm...kind of like a "Tag The Children" Program? What about this?
www.digi-ids.com
I doubt this is it, but how about we combine with the "lost and found idea" put a sticker on your kid and if someone finds them they can look them on "whereismykid.com"
What is an "Amber Altert"?
I know that there are services in the UK where you can buy a number of credits that allow you to track a registered mobile phone (uses cell tower positioning). Are there any other options for tracking someone using something that is fairly ubiquiteous?
The issue of tagging elderly patients with Alzheimer's or other diseases that make them prone to wandering off and getting lost has been in the UK news recently. The way I understand it, most people agree that it shouldn't be done without the permission of the person to be tagged, so supporters are pushing to introduce guidelines under which a person can consent while they are still of sound mind.
Might be worth reading up on for the technological and ethical issues involved.
I think RFID would work if the range could be extended enough. With cell technology today and the wireless infrastructure I think it could be done rather easily in most areas.
For example: Governments can give all businesses a tax break by installing a RFID receiver that will record any RFID's that hits it -- all the data being stored securely at the local PD or FBI, etc. All public fuel stations/restaurants/hotels have RFID receivers, all public roadways could have RFID receivers at intersections, or even embedded below the pavement itself -- data would then be transmitted to the local FBI/RCMP/etc. All RFID keys would be stored securely and not be available for public consumption for targetted marketing, etc.
In the end you have several results: A child goes missing and boom officials are able to not only find the child's last known location they will be able to provide evidence of the path that the kidnapper took.
You provide years of employment to people in the community to install and maintain the system.
A safer community.
As for children, especially infants, the transmitter could be embedded into the pelvic bone when the child is very young (this will prevent unwanted removal) and also program the device in such a way as to disable it completely should the parent/guardian/child (after reaching adulthood) want it disabled.
The biggest technical danger I see is making sure the battery does not leak and then infect the body.
As for who pays for it: duh, the community/individual pays for nearly everything these days anyways, it'll just be in the form of taxes.
Of course my solution is only viable if the kidnapper doesn't drive a car, eat, etc, but there are other issues that would be covered, run-aways, lost children, etc.
i think .5% increase in income tax would be a good price to pay for a safer community, highly reduced kidnap rate and reduced teenage oriented crime.
I dont get it... is this a tag that goes under your kids skin (like a pet)
What are the statistics of random kidnappings versus kidnapping by other family members? If the ratio of random kidnappings is much higher than that of family members, then again, aren't we trying to solve a social issue with technology? If the kidnappings are so random, what are the parents doing? Watch your kids! Streetproof them! Get them to understand the difference between right and wrong.
I would question the tagging of kids for many of the reasons that c0ffee mentioned, what is required is technology that doesn't breakdown or cause harm to the body. Sure, we tag pets, but their lifespan is not 70 to 80 years, so we don't know the true long term effects on a body.
Greetings Everyone:
I would like to thank all of you for your support and comments in replying to my idea, I am grateful.
It seems that tagging a child is the big issue here.
As I mention before if you tag a child, which of the parents should know that the child is tagged, the Mother or the Father.
If the Child is kidnapped by Father or the Mother, they will know that the child is tagged, so tagging a child seems be loosing in this race.
I thought it over for a while and researched some sites, and maybe the solution is to Tag the perimeter of where the child plays, sleeps, etc.
If someone enters the perimeter or tries to take the child out of the zone, alarms go off.
I really don't find tagging a babies pelvic bone would be accepted by the parents, I would not accept this if I were a parent.
The other option is to implement a community information strategy to educate parents, about how to protect their child.
Also in public places, Parks, playgrounds, etc, a tagged zoned perimeter should be put into place.
I believe there is such an Amusement park in belguim that had problem where many children were being lost.
The child would have a tamper proof bracelet with an active RFID tag.
The parent would be able to track the child on their CellPhones.
So, I hope everyone continues to add more comments, this is the best information I recieved in years, thanks.
Regards Robert
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