Don't forget to post that text messaging , video idea on cambrian house before the new voting round starts next week, duh .. i mean this morning so do it now ..

hmm talking to myself in the future .

I understand the need for this completely. I've been in business relationships where one person needed a constant flow of documents faxed (ugh!) to their personal fax machine, but because of the time difference, these faxes would come at inappropriate times. I certainly could have used a convenient fax buffer at that time.

However, we already have an asynchronous messaging service: email. Do you have a big enough audience that needs this kind of asynchronous messaging but only has text messaging and not email?

Well, i do agree with Micco that email would really easily suit this purpose. I suppose there are a lot of people that when on the go do have a cellphone but not a way to check or send email, so this would be useful to them. However, the market for smart phones is just growing and growing, so that number will probably just go down.

A text-to-email service might accomplish a similar thing: You send a text message, and it gets translated into an email and sent to the correct person. This would provide a way to send email even on a phone that doesn't have email ability.

I'll admit to not being a texter, so I may be just misunderstanding the market and value here.

pengy, I use both text and email both from desktop and phone. I see the need for something like this, but I think it's pretty well served by the tools we have. Text to email gateways exist, but if propertygeek can find a way to differentiate, there's probably a market.

Couldn't this be accomplished using Google Calendar? (Ok, so I don't know am checking as I write this.)

There are reminder options including:
- email
- popup (assuming gmail or some tie to google is active)
- SMS

So I've set an event for 10 minutes in the future with a 5 minute warning... sitting... waiting... phone gonna buzz? Hmmmm....

In it came, right on the nose. Maybe the Google SMS tools don't take any time zones you're traveling into in to account. But then again, setting some global time-zone setting for one's google account would probably address that.

Perfectly reasonable idea you've got here.... but I'm voting it down. Oh no wait... this is for OTHER people, not myself. Oh... uh... maybe I should slow down when reviewing these things.

okeee... I guess this could be done either as a phone app, or a website SMS service.

Here's one as a mobile app...
http://sansango.com/...s-mobile-smartphone/

Here a web service...
http://www.mweb.co.z...bid/328/Default.aspx

Ok so the mobile aplication is only available if it can be downloaded to a particular phone,but it dose not take time zones into acount so is not very user freindly
Also messages sent to email canot reply back to text phone,regulations do not let that workwork.
therefore i think the web aplication is best if you can acces that website via your phone so that messages can work in both directions and the wesite could be layed out in a dedicated user frendly way to acount for time zones

ie with all the flags of countrys like skype that would automaticly convert whatever time you wanted them to get it to there local time without having to figure it all out.

i am trying to diferencciate here.
Delayed SMS Sender 2.0 is out and it now supports sending the SMS in the background! In the previous editions when you closed the application or restarted the phone the pending SMSs would not be sent. In this new edition Delayed SMS Sender has been rewritten to support this much requested functionality.

likewise the google calander works, but it is not dedicated to the purpose as a global website could be.

instant messages could be sent this dedicated website which then controled the dely.

also could email messages to the website then be translated to text and send to phone.

i dont know if this is posible it,s just an idea, but look forward to your coments and feedback jason

propertygeek i like your idea! it will be hit with teen population if not the business crowd :) say in he developing countries where the mobile penetration is higher than most of the developed countries..n the use of SMS is high

Sounds good, I am weary of being awakend by the early morning text

It is not the wave of the future SMS is just an email address and the only other part is a timer. But, it has been done before.

On a side note android app?

One more thing I just thought of you know when teens say they will call home at a specific time. This app could prove useful still.

I can see a range of broader applications for this, from automatic entry into text competitions to DELIBERATELY sending messages to 'friends' at inappropriate times.

Personally I just switch my phone off overnight... whatever it is, it can wait 'til the morning!

This app has its merits. I dont think it is something that will sell since there will be freeware imitations out there... but it is a great idea nonetheless.

It definitely has its uses. For instance, if my buddy is sleeping and I want to send him a wakeup SMS (or send one to myself) I can set it to 8am my buddies time to wake him up.

Or (this is the darkside talking) ifyou want to send a message to someone to prove you were SMSing at a certain time to "cover yourself" you can use this delay as an alibi (I am leaving this idea intentionally vague).

Either way, great idear!

I wouldn't use it.

"I wouldn't use it." To bad I don't care about you. I am so going to build this thing just so I can slap text messages in your face any time I want.

If I ever have time to work on my sweet android dev kit. I am so going to make this. I don't care what you guys think. This idea is simple, reasonable and will not cost a lot.

Are you with me or not. Because that is what it comes down to do you guys have the ball to actually make something or are we just going to talk about it. WE SHOULD MAKE THIS END OF STORY!

"Delayed SMS Sender 2.0" Wait, never mind hold the phone. I just read that part. This is all ready on mobile.

Wait Delayed SMS Sender 2.0 Commercial price $5.99!!! F* that its on!

propertygeek, how do you intend to take time zones into account? There's no way to reach and and determine what time zone I'm in before you send a delayed message. If the sender is going to have to manually pick the recipient's time zone, I think you're better off just selecting a time delay. From a usability standpoint that would be clearer to the user and you would use the same interface to send to other time zones as you would use to send delayed messages to the same time zone. You could always add a drill-down time zone map as a selector for time delay, but the primary input would be delay.

Still, not sure I see the point, just making usability comments.

"There's no way to reach and and determine what time zone I'm in before you send a delayed message."
You can do it by area and country code if need be.

I like it, Ive had the need for this myself before. Same thought process as me delaying emails until after the work day ends... maybe delay text messages for whatever reason... my own being I don't want the person to know I'm accessible that very second.

"You can do it by area and country code if need be."

My mobile is a company phone with an area code several hundred miles from my office. It happens to be in the same time zone, but only by a bit. And I'm hardly unique in that respect. I know people on one coast who routinely carry mobiles numbered on the other coast. Plus, the point of a mobile is to be, well, mobile, so what about when I'm not in my home time zone?

My point was that since you can't accurately determine where the person is at the moment, it would be simpler to have the interface provide an input for time delay rather than time zone. This covers both the ambiguity of trying to determine based on phone number and all the other situations where the delay the user wants has nothing to do with time zone differences. I might want to send a reminder IM to my partner when I think of something at 4am but not want it delivered until 9am, and that use has nothing to do with time zones.

My point is not really that determining the time zone is difficult; it's that determining the time zone is irrelevant. Clever solutions to guessing the time zone don't make that information more useful from the standpoint of building a usable interface.

I am grasping to see the value added with this service.

I feel this product is badly required, if you want to turn it into business, I have development resources who could help you realize this at a very low cost.

Mobile phones adjust the time according to the service signal in the respective area. Could a message be scheduled to transmit at a given "time" in the receiver's locale (Sender doesn't have to know which time zone they will be in)?

If you want to message the kids to call home at 10:00, you want to schedule the time and not the interval. Or, allow either input and let the phone track/report the other.

Well area and country code can generally give you the time zone. I am not saying it was going to be for sure the correct time. Just that there are ways to do it. It would be accurate probably to within an hour on average.

"My point was that since you can't accurately determine where the person is at the moment, it would be simpler to have the interface provide an input for time delay rather than time zone."
Very true, it would provide a easier interface. I can alway have both delay and time zone.

Overall, my guess is the user is going to know generally where the user is to within sum degree. Unless you happen to travel frequently.

"Could a message be scheduled to transmit at a given "time" in the receiver's locale (Sender doesn't have to know which time zone they will be in)?"
Well that would only work if both users had the same program. Because other wise there is no way to get the time from the other phone.

good idea ,
but why only for different time zone ,even in same time zone ,this could be used to wish somebody b'day,or to remind for a meeting.
Also tie-up with telecom operators for a share of profit since you are giving them business in advance.
and for paid customers you can have partnerships with mobile operators to deliver the messages of your customers on priority basis during heavy traffic period like new year/christmas eve.

"why only for different time zone ,even in same time zone" We were just talking about how time zones could effect the program.

"Also tie-up with telecom operators for a share of profit since you are giving them business in advance."
Ya, I don't think that is going to fly with the phone companys.

I happened to see this today, in the same vein:
http://www.callthefuture.org/

"...there is no way to get the time from the other phone."

I was wishing. It seems that the TelCos must know where one is (even smaller resolution than respective time zones). They would not even have to tell the sender. Now, how to get the TelCos to cooperate? [Android]

http://www.callthefuture.org/

thanks for this link. this is about as near to it as it gets i think.
only just read all your comments and will reply in more detial soon as i am snowed under at the moment with other projects.
i know this can be improved upon and there is a good business opertunity hiding in here, it just needs the wisdom of a select few to come out.
catch up with you soon and thanks again for your comments & votes. jason

An "A list" of features:

Call the future
Text the future
Use time and track interval countdown
Use interval and receive time of transmit
Transmit time determined automatically by TelCo according to time zone of receiving phone
Determine time zone of receiver (for senders benefit) based on previous two features (tracks the receiver's movement through time zones)

The last feature will be superseded as GPS loction services become widespread.

thanks again for all your comments.
Now to decide what to do with this idea i need your help.
i will post this question individualy to all who have commented on this idea.

Are you interested in forming a business with this idea ?
coming together as partners & sharing work & any rewards equaly?
looking forward to your reply.

Jason.