hmm im trying to see the tech point out of this. quite hard wont it be? other then that . cool idea

Rizal...your hyping would help than your poor score given =(

but anyway, its the great odds that if hurdled will make the success much sweeter right?

sorry i tend to give low scores . though i like the idea. i see the difficulties in executing it. it will be hard to create such a product on no cost at all..

and there will take lots of designers/developers/programmers to create such a plattform.

its like making a movie. they usually have this stunts...

How do you get all the content plus yourself in the 3d world?

I work in 3d and I kind of see where you are going.
You idea is a very complicated one to create.

Can you give us some more details?

]V[oogy

Dude...youre a Dream builder!

Turn this into business ASAP...i got some friends that can collaborate with you in technical aspects.

Go Tiger!

I think that you could sell some of these videos. You might be able to do quite well in the short term. I also think that like many things, this would fade quickly.
If I were a VC, I wouldn't be convinced.

I love the idea, I think it's great if we can cooperate with larger directories of movies, songs and clips from all around the world.

moogy:

good you mentioned your expertise, as i've said am not a technical person..but some people told me the realm is much easier that we Merchant thought...i just though 3D is a jumpstart or anime/cartoon while the main dish is being prepared (the actual film footage to vanity spoof or iPeg). Most videos can be 'recreated" with copyright being the legal impediments.

Entrprenew:

even if this is become a fad (which i dont see why in 4 billion "market" it will -years maybe)..i believe the name will stay and retention is a good investment as technology improves...Most VC are traditonalist and framed themselves in four corners of their experience but this is the Internet and Software technology even PACMAN and or MARIO brother returns and reinvented while Instant Photo Booth still present in morethan 80 countries.

Iskandar:

thats the path really..to go there and capture a good segment of that inventory to lure and make people stay since some culture and location will have their own favorite video to IPEG.

...guys, just a souvenir video for occasion like Wedding theme video is a exciting market to produce backyard SMEs (small medium enterprise) ... LOTR, Titanic is being themed in wedding, while music videos computer generated recreation (LOTR again) is being done with gusto... i dont want to go to details on the business model (though obviously the Gold is glittering even Mercury is present) =)

Wow...hope i can have the Ipeg video by December as a gift to my Grandparents!

How did you coined the word iPeg i search it and saw a lot of acronym for it but trying to figure the name for the project does make sense really.

Neat and cool!

thanks thunderbear...bear with me as ams stil on developmet stage but yes our target dates is on last quarter soft launch and a BIG ONE in Decemeber(since most are in vacations)!

re the name: ipEg is not a trademark so i never hesitated to used it.
2ndly, it was coined from the word PEG which means: pin marking something and (as transitive verb) is to secure, to fasten or "peg" something ..of course the prefix "i" is jargon now for internet ideas orginally means MY..(and redundanly used as suffix for Improved) thus iPEG or my PEG (videos/cartoons/filmclips) is now born!

Lastly: in commerce its used as to fix something or of value to some level..since you are iPEgging a video for whatever worth it is to you more now. iPEG is just perfect!

hm great idea

I wouldnt want one.

I like your imagination! hmmmmm....

I give you five Saigon! No need to overhype this one, the idea in itself has a lot of merits. Ideas like this could be Google's missing ingredients in turning YouTube a profit center. Go for it!

And this is cute: i dream.. i built.. ipeg

Dear Saigon,
Is it for real that iPeg or my PEG will be launch in December? I would like to be your beta tester..:)

Thanks for the motivation guys specially to Rovtar, Joyce...

Cycko: thanks for the push... i havent been so excited for a long time dealing with a project that will rock the world. I will keep you posted and will be needing your corporate saviness in the days to come.

Rawkin: am stil about to meet my technical team next week, i think the beta tester with you wil be for free to drum beat this to your territory with you as superman kissing her lady love! =)

..gee getting excited really...even previous remark Menu was over looked...

Alex UK: you wouldnt want one for now, but wait until you see the BETA and see how does it feels good you hopping in the Moon with Neil Armstrong hehehe

saigon...just keep your focus...and work for my 1 cambro's given for all its worth!

go to work and hit the world on this storm coming! =)

but..either you sell it now or get the risk of being copied and eaten alive!

Someone mention google and you know how scouts do their wicked homework...In the cold war lioves are being shed too...

Anyway Godspeed it is a great Idea!

Be well,

How about doing it all in virtual lego?

Users can construct famous or original scenes in virtual lego and star themselves in any user-made scene templates. The lego avatars should allow flexible customization in order to be identifiable.

I'm wondering if it's technically easier than trying to realize iPEG real and natural.

I have to check what my team have to say...visiting the site re Virtual Lego if am not mistaken ..it is an applicaiton for a starter via LDraw? Then ray tracing etc.... again am not a technical person but more of a visionary. Are the 3d arcades games in Lego avatar? if it is then what i imagine as the early stage to give to clients

My warm thanks really for this comment, just what i mentioned in my early IDEA synopsis the 3d thing or avatar could be a start...at the onset i thought this video editing technology is been around since some video scandals are either rebunked as fakes and just some digital magic... now were trying to put it in a user friendly site.

This is a really cool idea! Who hasn't fantasized about being a rock star without the hassle of learning or being able to sing or play the piano, like Billy Joel (ok I am dating myself here). This Crowsourcing is a great idea too, but (there it is that damn "but") what is stopping a more technically inclined person from simply taking your idea and making it his or hers? I really don't like it when people try to discourage me and look I am doing it now right here. I guess what I have learned over the years of daydreaming is that: the ideas that you will realize will be the ones you lead. If you're not a technical person as you have said, than maybe you will have difficulty since you cannot really lead this. I hope that despite what I am saying here, you WILL succeed. The greatest resource that anyone can have, aside from their mind, is friends, and this is what this site is all about. Good fortune to you my friend. :-)

So this would take an existing video, replace one person's face with a blue screen, and superimpose your image on the blue screen? I have a software program that does that with JPEGs. Makes some interesting spoofs.

Colonelron:
Lets get it on...i already put this on the business email me and discuss the matter...
Moreover, it is the spoof thing that will really get away from copyrigh hassle aka parody and criticism =)

DoctorO:
thanks for the constructive comment...lets remember even LIoan tamer doesnt need teeth and flex but just his whip =) i been managing peole for the last 9 years...i know how to skin a cat a thousand ways.
rest assured friends are considered gems on this path called digital life.

Let me get this, you can use any jpeg picture and make a video?Hell you could unite,The Beatles,Zep,The DEAD.......its end less....great idea!!!cudos

...gee, i can be Britney's Spear in no time at all in video while belting myself in my own sala... a vanity soup that is good for soul!

cynthia:
thanks! uniting them might be have some confusing issue and would not much served your own iPeg build dream video but you joining in one of their concert video is a probability in either of the methods were now developing... jpeg is a source,,you will have choices like how yahoo avatar inventory of selection does=)

Abbys_of _thought:

yeah youre right! isnt this better than you tube?

this iPEG is HOT!!!!!!!

have you met your team? can you sure deliver your concept?

gotta move fast!

..this is cool Dude!

Hope you win all the way to the monthly tournament!

Godspeed saigon!

hhmm sounds interesting. What would be the difference between iPeg & http://www.themoviesgame.com ?

thanks: ides-of-june/james_decides...

Biggles: i did check the site you mention.

hope am wrong in my quick browse- TMO is more into action simulated stunt done is good 3d technology with recent feature like extensive AMM & PP Extensions, and "Free Cam" or "Camera Control" which are all very good.
but(again).... they missed something though you can make your own scene there.. with a number of variations possible 4,205,165 quarter million(hats off)! its still a raw good 3d thingy and this is where iPEgged is heading...you can change the character's feature as your own replica. into eventual dream video...starting of course in some apllicitions like TMO have mention. iPeGGED will have incredible jaw dropping likeliness in reality video and film clips.
How would you like to have a video as crocodile dundee mate with yourself as the star?
bloody awesome huh!? =)

I hope i gave you more than interest.

I like your passion for the idea! And there is no doubt that mini videos are increasing in interest across the web. Especially, as the move from traditional TV technology to systems such as http://www.Joost.com, the mini videos will come into their own.

I don't need any 3d technology for the croc video, just a standard video cam :)

I think you underestimate the technical difficulty in do this. This is common when non-technical people have aspirations beyond their knowledge. If you only use a small number of views if the person's face, you will have a terrible "cut and paste" look. What you need to do id build a 3d model of the person's face and use that in a rendered scene. BTW, any stock footage or personalities you include in the video MUST be licensed, and this is very tightly controlled. I think the project would be a too- high risk for any VC.

TheGuru:

Pax!

Comment appreciated. I answered some of your concern on previous post just the same iI know the tastk ahead. we are driven by passion, positive thought, trust to technology, money and of course the fun of it.
The 3D thing is here and near perfect in most appplications (check TMO), my Tawainese friend gave me enough assurance (after presentation) of the reality jpeg appearance( like Mortal combat arcade thing)... this are the initial and birth feature as we develop the final cut of the video/film footage into a user friendly or online downloadble conveniecence( where the bucks will come in).
On matter re licensing are up to my legal team wich practically is/are small cobwebs due to (again) copy right's own aggreable term or its tight achilles heel (in this case is the use of product as parody). Licensing thingy is another issue if one brand is being flagrantly use without permission (i.e. Products Logo).

By and large, these are all workable and VC would simply give me a tempting offer before i supposed to agree. Youtube was not cheap remember?

Lastly, why would i sell my goose that will lay goldeb eggs?

Can you really launch this as per your time table...i noticed a lot are interested.
Better save all your cambros amigo and refined everything there is to do. Time is the essence my dear.

You got my vote i split with the sweet lil kid name Thunderbear. =)

Love it...you must be a Genie ready to make our wish come true in video!

This is a blast really!

I am concern on some future problems the way fake scandal video humiliate people...it wil be a form of abused to spite people.
How do you intend to control that?

Looks cool to me.. but is the 3d much viable if you intend to have below 20sec movie/video clip for MObile fon than the much tedious and somewhat technically difficult Film footage thingy?

You can count on me on this. We need to show the world the next Youtube millionaire will come from our tribe!

Hope my vote counts.

Yo Saigon,

Ya got a bit of a buzz going. Keep up the energy.

Take a look at spotrunner.com and see what technolgy they are using. I don't think it's the same thing but you could take some ideas from it. They have a huge library of TV commercials that any company can use and customize for their local TV audience. It's TV advertising for the little guy.

Take Action!

ok... but how is it going? are you on schedule?

Dateline:Philippines
0400hrs MLA Time

Boxcar:

thanks for mentioning the site i will check it out as soon as my time permits me. yes i need a good library of videos et al.

Everyone:

Thanks for keeping me at toe, even for the momentarily snap from the sanity of this CH fever that got me. Maybe you've heard i was out of contention for almost a day on the final canto of this wacky weekly tournament.(Ka ERic it was you who lead me to this)..honestly my energy was drained for a while and i still have a long weekdaysa ahead on my Scholarship grant -order to enroll- and some domestic matters... of course not to mentioned the commitment on major IDEAS that brought my whole adrenaline running upto the wee hours of the morning.

-sorry for the personal tone of this comment from the author, even Superman crawl at the sight of Kyrptonite, right Cycko?-

Sorry to bust your bubble.... but you are going to have a hard time with you idea...
Physics are in your way.

Heat or the lack of it is determined by the movement of molecules.
The more the molecules move the hotter it gets. A microwave sends out energy, the excited molecules move more, making things hotter.

When molecule slow down thing get cold.
At -273 Celsius roughly molecules don't move any more.

So if you were to send an energy wave to cool things down... it would be counter productive.

Suggestions

Make a liquid nitrogen cooling system or an air pressure system...
This could be much simpler.

]V[oogy

uh Moogy thanks,

r u sure the comment is for me? ( i was lost for a while..due to the rsult of the tournament)

i admire your wide array of expertise including your passion in 3D.

if you mean interactive 3d technology with physics issue, we are aware of some problem ref:Game Physics (The Morgan Kaufmann Series in Interactive 3d Technology) by David H. Eberly

the issue is more on collaboration on existing wonderful feauture iPEeged is needed, a lot of possible software is being increasingly used in other sites, but the cost of proprietary software is too high thus my team would like to develop.

However, Open collaboration continues to remain foreign to the large majority of computer users. In order to accommodate these users, some issues must be seriously addressed and actively resolved. Due to the increases interest buzz circling around this difficulties should be resovled as soon as possible.

Some of the issues’ resolvement would simply require a change of mindset, and some of them entail more work, but in the end what we can possibly produce is what should always be the primary goal anyway: high quality donwlodable product-video or MMS under iPegged solutions.

please email me if you have more wisdom to share, i got some cambros for you waiting =)

Great Idea!

Keep going!

thanks...

please take note that am not wearing Fear colored lense and focus to meet the objective rather than the problem to hurdle.

On the reality bites, the"team" is still needs competent persons to handle specific task. Please check bazaar notes on JOb posting. If Angleic crowd will turn into reality am intend to lobby to get the assistance it bady needs to start.

Keep your comments coming.

This sounds a lot like"The Movies" from EA Games, Maxis Arts.

The Movies Online:
http://movies.lionhead.com/

Kevin,

I replied already on Biggle's similar comment above: in essence we seems related (on 3d)but we are very different in form eventually.
TMO is more into action simulated stunt done is good 3d technology with recent feature like extensive AMM & PP Extensions, and "Free Cam" or "Camera Control" which are all very good.
However,"iPeggeD" will spin off from this(eventually or into spearate application if possible) and envisioning to have a realistic video on demand to spoof or make a parodied copy starring oneself.

I just notice my last comment was on the wrong idea...

Sorry about that.. I check so many ideas and comments... I just got lost.

]V[oogy

Well thought idea, Saigon. But my vote goes to the diligence that you invested in replying all the comments here. That's the spirit! Never ever give up!

Saigon, like many others you are swamped also with negative votes and you particularly buried in the second page. I think this is no longer a fall out of your intramurals with Alex UK in the past tournents. I want to keep this dream alive. I vote openly. My vote hopefully will bring you back to the front page. Right now its -2 points after 32 votes casted. Only 4 different people commented since the start of the tourney. Give you Four man. Keep fighting!

its a great fantasy...

but jesus, time consuming

saigon,

I could be of help, i hope to get in touch with you. If your in Manila (am down south) we could do some VOIP or webcast(SMS for a start) to work something on specific concern your team might be having difficulty. Though honesty its a lot of work. I can see from the number of votes and encouraging words a lot wanted this to be online verysoon. Also since we are of the same passion i believe language would bridge us more to paste all the mind we could gather.

Never hesitate when youre already in the battle field ok?.

Guys,

sorry for the long weekend am not able to reply in time.

Noted Moogy!

thanks esprikitik thats was a goo tap on my back.

ekkenomo; i will send you my personal message in the next few days, i will be visiting your region anytime next month.

Cycko: many thanks for the two round votes comrade!

patrick jones: thanks for finally using new comment in your arsenal of mandarin mind.... but, in due respect to the problem, when solved -not if- that will be the real come-ons to download in one acceptable sitting visit of a client to "iPegged" his dream video/animation... this is the actual beauty of which my team and upcoming members is tasked to do because this is portal to do the "ipeg" online without going to George Lucas studio or some underground experts. Right now we practically see the application would work in much convenient time thru 3D animation of less than an hour good "iPeggedit" session... the eventual iPEG video clips is the 60k cambros question on how to make it user friendly and inthe limits of session threshold of an individual.
If you able to fantasize something in your head for a long time, we promised to shorten it and give you the downloadble product for you to scream: halleluya!

keep believing guys, we have all our dreams waiting to iPEg.

How do you intend to raise funds for this idea?

Fitzpatrick: Angelic crowd is still a dream taking some shape...
A VC would probably not lift a finger unless without a prototype!

This is the reality i know that will haunt me in the days to come...but believe it or not, even before Lovetech Idea won...some good souls in the crowd already gave their sweet cambros just to make this IDEA take off where it intend to go. Thus i am on fire to make this happen.

Above this, i have only few options left in which am trying to put an act together with my selected associate: investor shopping (for the established entrepreneur) with in the busines community of my country. present the project and business model and ask for grant and enter to a possible short term agreement. The last few option is either to break my piggy bank and or encash the trust fund for my son! (half seriously) :-/

Any suggestion?

I see... Well no matter what, don't cash-in your son's trust fund!
I understand you are highly motivated to make this work, but I wasn't sure if you had a plan to make this "dream" come true. Now that I see you have actually spent some time considering your options, I am changing my vote. Best wishes! =]

Thanks Fitzpatrick!

My 3 member technical team will have its 2nd weekend collaboration..i'll kep you posted ok? I might skip 2 more Weekly tournament and probably be back with great news.

Colonelron: I intend to give you an exchange of emails, re your software ok?

What a creative mind!

This IDEA is way up there with no peer really outstanding.

Hows things about this lately? If youre busy in your other endeavors why not hand this over to someone you can trust? Are you not sending this back in the tournament? Am not much into this digital lingo and hightech conceptualization, but dont you need a whole bunch of people to put this above the ground?

You will definitely have my vote!

edgar,

thanks for the invitation... your IDEA is really good hope you could work on this the soonest.
just a clarificaton, do you intend to have a full length video of your Ipeg or a few second material for Mobile MMS screensaver and for PC use? Above 30secs would seems reosurces killer for even a website to deliver the way even youtube andother site buffer a downloadble video. Am thnking the process to make an Ipeg product might turn off people (if it so) what other feauture do you intend to include to neutralized the possible drag?

- D.E.

the latest:

my guerilla 3 member team pinpointed some technology but is still drawing up how it will be applicable to a Mobile browser except for some modification and conversion apllication. No finish product yet due to limited time and resources.

where far from the video based real iPEG ..however the 3|D was deliberated andd describe as follows:

iPEG: A Web-based 3D-image display system that loads a 3D-image file stored in a storage device and displays a 3D image on a Web browser, the Web-based 3D-image display system comprising: Web-based 3D file creating means for generating a 3D object by using a 3D modeling software program and converting the 3D object or an entire 3D scene into a standard descriptive language for describing Web-based 3D graphics; 3D scene customizing means for customizing a 3D scene based on the Web-based 3D graphics file created by the Web-based 3D file (IPEG) creating means and applying information regarding how to display the 3D scene on a Web browser; compressed 3D file generating means for creating a 3D file having a transmission size made smaller by compressing all of the 3D-scene information; 3D applet generating means for generating a 3D applet that executes real-time 3D rendering and motion algorithms on the Web browser based on 3D scene information in the compressed 3D file in order to display a 3D scene; Web page creating means for creating a Web page of an HTML document comprising an applet tag for calling a 3D applet; 3D information storing means for storing in a storage device 3D information required for displaying a 3D scene, the 3D information comprising the compressed 3D file, the 3D applet, the Web page, object texture files, and an optional toolbar file; 3D applet executing means for requesting a 3D applet stored in the storage device, loading the 3D information file stored in the storage device, and executing the 3D applet; and interactive display processing means for displaying a user-interactive 3D scene achieved when the 3D applet executing means executes the 3D applet.

Next step is the execution so far am 3dimensional tired and floating with this techical description and still lots of work and personal endeavor at the side!

QUESTION: IS THIS USER FRIENDLY?
Answer: We will try!

Our acknowledgment to our Japanese friend for sharing the technology.

Houston we're engaged! =)

PS. Anyone in JAVA and into VRML browser?

Pls PM me ok...

how is it going Saigon?!

have you check daZ3D.Com? from the perspective your ipeg seems a cousin...

http://www.daz3d.com...x/software/mimic/-/?

scroll back guys..

but yes i saw few weeks back daz3d.. i must admit their technology is somewhat will be the initial phase of iPEG 3d project...

Yawn! Whats is the point? why would I want to do this.

Welcome back Saigon!
thanks for the clarification Saigon...keep going, everything i read this IDEA themore i get excited that very soon I can have my an ice breaker video of myself in my presentation to the Doctors am covering.

This would be really a blast!

everytime i mean*
I know i should be posting this on the other idea page but hows your EUS? you got some real ideas in your head, hope you could focus on something first, work it out well before jumping into another.

Enjoy everything anyway Comrade.

-Daniel.E

AMAZING!

Saigon,

Am just a recent addition on the community, i observed there are ideas that are hilarious, me too product, outrageous and some very good one. If you are a salesman, i would really buy your product even if i wont be actually not an essential. The features simply is an exciting one. If its executable and would come as you envision i dont see why you wont be a millionaire!

you got my vote!

Sounds like pie in the sky to me. There are alot of ifs in this idea. I am no technical expert but can someone tell me if this is actually doable. I think I would rather vote up something that actually has a hope of success. I could come up with an idea for a transporter that would wisk people to there destination in an instant. It may even get alot of votes and comments like "sounds cool" or "go for it dude!" but when it comes down to actually doing it, well maybe someday. I think I will vote up Techguys blogging idea or maybe even that vector source thing that actually has a chance to reach completion and get off the ground in the near future. maybe then i could work on it and make some Cambros$$$$$$$$$

I believe this is very doable at least for 3D...the video/flick could wait i guess if the market will be satisfied on your product. I remember how my NBA/WWF software games came into a better 3d from its early beginning. The problem with a visionary like you Saigon is your IDEA is susceptible to be copied and capitalized before you harvest your grain someone had already perfected the ipeg idea that will break your own dream.

By the way, TELETRANSPORT was born already under the guise of Faxcimile=) hahaha. Am no video savvy but Saigon pls check video splicing might help you solved some of your technical difficulties.i guess turning a file into a digital one would be the best bet to edit frame by frame your ipeg. Lastly there is already a browser based video editing available soon its designed to average Internet user who simply does not understand the intricacies of preparing or editing a video. I heared it will help to alter the appearance of a clip associated with the manipulation facility.

PM me if your interested.

reading the negative post and good comments here i can simply put the following lines all together.
I would rather give my cents to a Mercury Moon Mission or vote Oprah for presidency than support a blogmashing hyping theme that would considerably compromised my security or some ideas good enough to stand by itself without informing the community.

Seriously, this idea might not be the next youtube but its another mania coming if realized the way polyponic ringtone and composer attracted many people-this is my bold prediction-.

Saigon - do you have an idea of the cost of producing the 3d animations upon which people would have their likeness placed? I expect a realistic sequence would cost quite a bit and if you have to have to create many in order to keep interest levels up, would you recover your money?

Somehow I liken this idea to the photo shops you see in a lot of tourist destinations where you can have your photo overlayed on top of a number of 2d scenes. The product doesn't have mass market appeal and therefore tends to be quite expensive and low volume.

siddey,kevin

I don't know if you have background on photography, film editing or done digital animation, i have limited knowledge too on this field but i can assure you based on the industry and association am working with, this idea is not far fetch. Indeed some groups are working on this now.
Its actually not simple, but again very doable on the following steps to wit:

Re technical problem to get the form of a user overlapping in real time the form of the image that one replaces in the video.

- take at least one first fixed picture of the face of the user;

Though, just replacing the face of a content in a movie clip with a current picture of the face of a user may not give satisfactory results. For example, the current picture of the user can be a right profile when the actor shows his left one. Then, replacing the faces will lead to a non correspondence between the body of the actor and the face of the user

-it can be answered by a dynamic replacement by building a 3D-model of that face;
- replacing a first video picture of the actor with a reproduction of the face of the user after matching their respective size and orientation; and

*while the clip is going on:

-replacing the face of the targeted image in the successive pictures of the video clip with successive pictures reproducing the face of the user, the transitions of the face of the actor in the successive pictures of the video clip being followed by applying at least orientation, size and displacement vectors to the 3D-model of face of the user on the basis of orientation, size and displacement vectors calculated for the face of the actor in the clip.

- the face of the actor to be replaced by the face of the user is pre-recorded and transition parameters (orientation, size, displacement, transformation) are calculated from view to view while the movie clip is going on. Then, the system knows for each transition between two pictures, the vectors of displacement, orientation, size and transformation. According to the invention, the displacement vectors are used to adapt the location of the picture of the user which has to replace the face of the actor in the recorded movie picture. The orientation vectors are used to adapt the orientation of the picture of the user. The size vectors are use to adapt the size modification between the successive pictures.

-In practice, all these vectors are combined in transition vectors taking into account one or more of these parameters.

The question now actually is how far Saigon and his team can go to finance this project before anyone can put up the right system and techniques- on an "ipeg" technology- some of us know its already here?

Hope my 5 stars would matter.

Good luck Saigon!

oh boy...am sorry guys for keep you waiting for some of my rebuttal and possible clarification to entice you on how viable is this project both on essence, content and profitability.

While its obvious i tried to be keep silent for few nights now considering this IDEA is one of most personal baby born inside CH..let me explain that this has all good reasons to take a pause.

@True_daniel: Thanks for the good comment, i am both committed on this projects in personal level...EUS is on the great love to Special need children, while Ipeg is for the passion on the creativity and furtherance of real entertainment for everyone.

@mi_amore/febe: amazing indeed! Just relax and fasten your seat belt your not taken for a ride...you are one of true believer and i'll assure you you will not disappointed even if it will not be me who will carry this great idea to reality.

@DRkevin: i can hear yeah... we know that browser coming! =)

from DEVIN:

"I am no technical expert but can someone tell me if this is actually doable. "
answer:

YES DEVIN (and virginia) THIS IS DOABLE!

@kevin: No PIE in the sky here! =)
Don't be surprised if someone from Europe or Japan get ahead on this "simple" idea.

@siddey: great insight from down under!
As i was saying, 3d is just the initial phase and it more doable than ipeg magic i proposed..have you seen daz3d? they make money outhere...TheMovieonline? - great stuff right? But have you heard and noticed KARAOKE/VIDEOKE? well i do =) I grew up in a country (and visited places too) near 100 million and go gaga on croaking their voice out to simply mimic BonJovi and belting like Whitney Houston...some survey way back proves people idolized this pop ICON just what Michael Jacson did decades ago. The culture and and some pysche is definite one most have this itch to be like someone..be it an artist, athlete and or some celebrity.

Now for eveyone- the bad news.

My team actually is falling apart due to financial constraints and some matter to hold them together.

the GREAT NEWS?

We have the solution on the ipeg HOW questions. It is doable but takes a lot of resources to pull it out or just to hold the technology in our hand.
For obvious reason we cant divulge you the details., but its a digital video editing system and can be integrated to a browser to make it internet user friendly. Throwing some kink from the gold is actually counter productive for IPEg at this time. Please don't rush me to give you more than "rhetorics". CH (Nor other site?) cant protect an idea spilled all over the internet so i cant help but simply to talk to you this way on how great it would be that you validate this IDEA thru your vote thereby giving a good glimpse and stamp of approval for possible VC to appreciate next to the merits of the project at hand.

Please continue supporting this idea on this round and may the best among us wins!

@ekkenomo:

Thanks Dude... you really know what you are talking! Practically you are correct, in many points..and honestly as co-Filipino you have the right grasp on the limitation 3rd world citizens can hang into such endeavors that need a real shot in the arm.

I appreciate the lengthy explanation than the 5stars.

MABUHAY KA!

The cost of actually building the software to deliver these videos on demand would be really high. As well as hosting these videos and the computation it would take to translate it into a video. I don't even think it could be done while the user waits for it, it would probably have to be sent to their email when it finishes.

So how will you profit with this model?? Advertising will definatley NOT cover those costs. So charging your users seems to be the only viable way to make this work.

But this is 2007, very few people are going to pay for a novelty like this. It's hard enough to get peoples attention for free especially with these "hey lets cool lets play around with it once and move on." Like the Simpsonize Me site that lets you make your own simpsons character, it was fun for 5min I shared the image and never went back. At least I had familiarity with the brand, the image was done quickly and the end result was good.

Idea is cool? yeah i'd try it if it was free. Viable? No way that I can see. I would never invest in this unless you get a solid business model and plan which I don't see from the 80 comments.

If your ignore everyones advice who said more than "its cool and it can be done" than I'd at least make sure you have solid funding and a viable business plan. Otherwise your wasting your time.

Maybe it shouldn't be free. But it is a fun idea and I think people would be willing to pay for their 15 minutes of fame.

- How will you receive permission to use movie clips?
- Where will you get the video required? Will it cost money? How much?
- How long will the software take to develop?

Technically, this procedure is hard enough to execute using cutting edge editing software, it's not something you can just whip up with some java script. Human judgment and competency is required to ensure professional results with the footage. This is generally not the knowledge your average internet user will possess.

To be honest, this seems like an idea that will take a long time to develop, be popular for a month or so of frenzied e-mail forwarding and then disappear. I don't think this idea deserves the popularity it's getting here or the financial backing it will require.

Sorry, just my opinion.

@dMix - sounds like you have an agenda.

@dMix:
re The cost of actually building the software to deliver these videos on demand would be really high. As well as hosting these videos and the computation it would take to translate it into a video.

-whats your basis?

re I don't even think it could be done while the user waits for it, it would probably have to be sent to their email when it finishes.

-IF this is cant be executable as online downloader "ipeggedit" on demand..a software is availaible for the world to have.

...on the contrary, what makes youtube thick? whats their profit center machine? ...TRaffic frm interest right? This idea will built it naturally. Do you know the trick in Copyright?...its the parody angle =)

thanks for the comments!

thanks MsMax!

Ringtone wa a hit few years back.MMS have not tapped its potential...PC screensaver still thrives.. does are real market waiting to devour! Traffic will come on the real buzz it wil create for (hopefuly) being first!

errata: does are real market waiting to devour!

* THOSE i mean...

@thestarwheel: comment appreciated, its not hard actually if your analogy is how Forrestgump was made. the only problem now is the resources to pool out not the technology(money talks).

THe TRUTH is ..there is a pending PATENT now up there. this is an open secret. I suspect most guillible techkkies are afraid to admit.

I luv this idea..the coolest ever..next to Karaoke and Ipod combined!

I see my nieces and nephews getting addicted on everything possible to update their Friendster's profile. In my country alone their are reportedly at least 16millions members! If you can tap that market to used this idea in their profile. I certainly believe you will be one the advertisers favorite! Forget about some guys and doomsayers...the world however Man tried to make it smaller is still divided by culture, food preference and fav sites.

go Saigon, the world is waiting!

i like your enthusiasm...1 star
i like your vision.....1 star
i like where you are heading...1star
i like your answers...1star
and most of all...
i like your whole idea! = 5 stars!

I could be wrong but based on simple logic.. the fact that your server costs would be so expensive that your ad revenue would not cover the costs. From my understanding of video you would have to individually process each video which can be very demanding on any PC. Which means you’d have to keep top of the line hardware while staying scalable to deliver decent waiting times for the user. I don’t think building that type of infrastructure would be cheap.

The thing that bothers me is if your relying on ads you’d need a consistent and high user base to cover those costs. And I agree with a lot of the comments above that say its something people would come to once because theres much of a reason to keep coming back. Your not building a community like YouTube it sound like you would have an expensive viral product.

From my understanding the valuation of YouTube came from its market reach and its future potential to make a lot of money. It positions Google as the leader in online video and direct access to those users. I don't see the connection.

I apologize if I’m being overly critical or seem like I have an agenda against Saigon. But I approach these ideas as businesses and if its unrealistic I will be honest and provide insight.

This is a great product!

Premium product doesnt come cheap. This will revolutionized vanity screen saver, avatar, ice breaker presentation and manymore. I think if the issue is the difficulty inputting this as online service why not make this as a booth machine available in the mall the way Instant (mobile fon, digicam) picture processing this days? This will be huge, but it will create more employment and real reach if you spread this in a stationary station.

You got my vote and this solicited opinion c",)

Awesome!

Hope this be available soon...an ave. $15 in daz3D is an awful onetime exp.
I would rather pay $30 for this with my face on it than fantasized 3d other site are projecting. I will definitely ask my friends to used this eventually.

5stars on the roll.

na na na miss saigon na na na ...

Thanks for the invitation on rating this idea.

I have a feeling am involving myself personally in elevating a very great idea on its pre-birth stage.

Its a priviledge to give you my vote!

all dbest,

-K

saigon idea good

you can work this out Saigon!

Brilliant, Bold, and Beautfiul!

As Joseph Addison said:

"Everything that is new or uncommon raises a pleasure in the imagination, because it fills the soul with an agreeable surprise, gratifies its curiosity, and gives it an idea of which it was not before possessed."

-carry on Saigon.

Brilliant indeed.

saigon,

i definitely like this...hope you could win all the way to Tournament of champion so you could used the purse for your idea development. I wish i could help you more in the future.

Goodluck!

-donna

A million thanks again for everyone for continues reviews and positive undertone you gave on this great idea. Your support really make me feel honored and i certainly believe that this idea is something BIG and will be somehting hot for a very longgg time in our digital lives.

I started this idea with just a simple spark of sugar rush and imaginative thoughts..since then things were never the same again..i was able to talk to a lot of technical people...chatted and exchange emails to some referrals and made good research and collaboration to some upstart IT professionals. Its still along way to go... as much as i wanted to win this one for everyone not only for my Glory but also to put a good business and try to established a social responsibility in return if i make it...one pending pilot project in waiting is my Exceptional Universal Site (but this is another story)...i guess am just carried away on the lecture of a visiting Prof today name Yuichi Ishikawa of Hokaido University. He will stay until few days for the festival of Festival in the Island called KADAYAWAN and I just hope through him(prof Ishikawa) i could possible meet VCs to listen and check my ideas for possible appointment for presentation and eventual grant.

Just remember guys: I dream, I built, Ipeg..

Madayaw & More Power to us all!

Saigon,

dont keep us waiting ok?

4 stars for the passion!
(i give 5 for something that is ready for the big bad world market place)

I agree that this thread has passion, but the idea is not something any venture capitalist I know would want to listen to. VCs love passion, but they love someone who can concisely state their concept even better. Maybe if the description was worked on I would like it better.

Hello Yes I would love to vote for this concept
Tilly

I think some of the obvious down vote in this great idea is the non appreciation of zealous answer against technical description. Reading the long thread, i understand that Saigon inclined to conceal some details because either he is not that knowledgeable on the specs of this magnitude or he is trying to be both discreet and persuasive in revealing everything from his team's knowhow to keep the idea on the threshold of security and interest. Though on second thought his early explanations are enough, he is also not compelled to say much based on the comments thrown to this idea which are either "yes i like this or i don't need this".
In general, this is a great idea and since am not an IT/video expert to understand the difficulty of the execution of this idea; i would rather buy his research work and team's assertion that this is doable-and thats a good news-.
Therefore I have no qualm but to give my vote on this.

All the best for your ipeg!

Perhaps am not good in written presentation but let me try to answer the questions and critical comments in a nutshell:
*Is it doable?
-Yes,... both (Video/3d) technologies are available in regular state of the art established studio and already attempted as dynamic system** PC based.
*Is it uploadable as video on demand?
-Yes, this is downloadable... based on existing and upcoming applications**.
*Is it viable
-Definitely Yes, this is viable...the market is huge based on karaoke users, screen saver clients, MMS afficionados, profile avatar lovers etc roughly a billion based on est. (country/culture based). I don't need a source survey since this is simply a revolutionary improvement of Karaoke and 3D animation currently on used.
* Do i have the resources and time?
- sadly NO..i have a strong feeling, someone somewhere some people are working on this and will beat me based on my limited resources. I can simply hope that even if i pull this off i wish i could market this better and give a better client retention based on CH exposure that this idea was born,paraded and honed during this interesting time.

Care to help?

**details are kept withheld for obvious reasons

Welcome back Saigon...

This Ipeg still as hot as ever but obviously created some hate vote from some sectors vying heavily for the 100 cambros =)

You got my 5 for the vision and real idea coming!

Thanks for the lenghty email explaining the progres.

saigon,

Am in love on my first reading...
and still fascinated until today.

Thumbs up!

Thanks for falling..hope i could be of service ASAP!

This reminds me of those karaoke booths you can sit in with the green background that is replaced with graphics. But this is 3D so it's cooler. Maybe there's some laser scanning or camera-tracking techniques that can be done. (Sitting in front of your webcam with a grid drawn on your face would be a sight.)

I think it would be an interesting technical challenge but it's difficult to grasp the market or business model. Some of those karaoke videos make it unto Youtube and are pretty funny. Maybe if you create a high-traffic channel you can become a partner (still in closed evaluation so I don't know how much they make).

Its a great idea...but

I forgot to ask last time how much would this cost if you intend to have this as MMS for celphone.. granted this owuld be a viral or momentary craze current NSP price in my country is less than half a dollar. Though am sure your product is better than gif i think more than a dollar would be a high price for few seconds of fun.

@bentobox:

How will i become a partner you mean the karaoke videos? tell mo what you know am intrested. It is a technical challenge so to speak but as i have said its doable and its the finances that curtails the develoment stage.

@ iLabrador:
We cant draw yet the SRP per seconder or file size...since we dont have the finish prduct to compute the cost. (CH dont even release my Cambros to used it as real legal tender though I got my penpal aacount now ) If you intend to pay $1 for MMS screensaver..i get i can get only 40% of that since the network provider would get more and they become my direct clients. In a text capital center in the universe like PHil. If i can get 10cents with at least 1k downloads per day (on approx 200millions sms traffic/day). Its not a bad outlet account for a single country. Its a real niche and i can feel NTT DeComo is dong some research already snooping on CH =) We Asians love entertaiments and gadgetry that makes everyday living fun. So i guess no need for crystal ball for this. Except if others have different opinion.

Nice idea
Tommy

Thanks and welcome back Tommy!

This project in all honestly beyond and above its limitations is as cool as how ringtones, personalized frame, profile slideshow/video young people and social network enthusiast go gaga to improve their webpage. The rest of its uses is a varied as one can apply- be it as promotional campaign, ice breaker. tribute video(parody..."jinx my boss" thingy) done in good taste, fun and self ego boosting piece of digital wonder-.

Saigon,

I LIKE THIS!

You got my vote,

-R.F.P

interesting concept. I work with Poser and Daz3D often, so I'm not sure how this would work, but I think I see where you're going.

Is there any proof of concept? or Something currently out there that can show what this is suppose to be? I am confused about what this is.

one Q - does this mean I will finally get to be a jedi knight?

Hi Saigon,

Here's that youtube link:

http://youtube.com/partpro_about

The partner program is still closed right now though. Here's another site that hosts videos for a 50/50 share of advertising:

http://one.revver.com/revver

Metacafe also has a program:

http://www.metacafe.com/producer_rewards

If you manage to get these videos out on a regular basis, and they're interesting enough for people not in them to watch, maybe you can draw an audience.

bento

@Bento: WOW thanks for the updates...this will really HElp!

@justme: Yup be sure you can handle well lypsynching famous line (we can digitally do that too) disagreeing to Darthvader to join his force and tellingyou he is your Father!

@Kevin:Proof of concept?! Have you missed Forrest Gump? =) We simply wanted the technolgy comes easy and downloadble for clients convenience. A video editing browser is here... the techonology to deliver the this IPEG as active video/grahic replacement is a "well kept details" Ekkenomo's comment up here will give you the idea. The original inventor of the same concept is not agreeing yet (he is from France), but his invention is a crude video editing machine to do this 3 yrs ago..we are trying to entice him to put our concept together since he never thought of putting this online. Nevrtheless, we believe given the right resources (funding) we can have our own protoype. The 3d graphic manipulation is here of course..we intend to used that first as appetizer and initial product while trying to perfect the video version.
Again if you missed some of my answer re licensing, the leglaity issue is ironed out bec we intend to used the video only as "parody" for few secs or minutes of a license video. We can also go further by removing all other license product that might be in the background (.i.e: gatorade and NBA logos in basketball scene). am sure you are familiar with TMO, while DAz3d morphing is quite cool and user friendly. This are some of the doability this IPEG can tap.

TO ALL: can anyone name my ipeg into another acronym meaning?
My son's suggestion- Interactive PErsonal Entertainment Graphics.

I will give cambros for a better one or another name (ipeg domain is taken)

Stay tune! c",)

how is this now? pls accept my few hard earn cambros for your team.
GOODLUCK!