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how will this service work.. its very unclear on how i would use this service

Rizal,

Thanks for the first question: let's say you wanted a memorial lot for an aging member of your family, in your country or their country of origin, you visit my "eMC". Choose and check a Memorial Company(with links) and even have a virtual tour. A menu will let you see all amenities and FAQ. You can request for brochure or more informations either directly in your email or thru a customer service chat/call conference/ links for that specific company. Viola your info needed wil be yours including payment scheme via c.card and other acceptable form. Contract will be forwarded to you eventually to validate the transaction.

Its a virtual "booking" really or online purchase lke any other ticketing agency. And yes you will have the luxury to aovid pestering salesman and some stigma (culture based) re this sensitive preneed product.

This is an ecommerce at work.

I'm not sure there is a market for this. I expect that people generally want to put as little thought into this as they can.

Whoa! a timely IDEA or a soft touch on the morbid business of the our mortality?

You seems really passionate on some endeavors or issue few amongst us have guts to even intelligently discuss about.

I wish you well,

FocusDriven

Maureen: If Salespeople do able to makes sales on this "thought" , Imagine how much more a discreet and impersonal approach via online can make a difference? I thought only asians have reservations on this...but anyhow, i believe the success story of preneed insurance companies and how most of us wanted to get away with this kind of sales people inviting us for lunch for "business" proposal or put us in cold feet from a friend referral and visiting this in your own home.
Remember its still is an investment.

FocusDriven:

I am passionate about this that believe will revolutionize the industry and open up a new terrain for ecommerce. Thanks for the kind wordsm appreciated really.

My fear is actually how to protect this IDEA while my team is not yet ready to complete the process unlike 999ideas.com can offer to members (patent etc).

Guys please do extend more positive opinions.

I have found, in my area at least, the companies that handle these matters do not even have web sites. Something like this could be what is needed to get the memorial sites out of the dark ages and into the new generation.

Yup colonelron:

i did join sometime as sideline last summer..and yes even my company doesnt have one...again am embarking on a global hub.

please check the business i did..you are invited!

...WOW, you are really into global community!

Its about time, we GENX command our future and tame our past.

Saigon, you have to think about how to drive traffic into your site so that the process of decisionmaking to buy can start. More plus factors maybe. Why not incorporate as plug in a sort o e-cemetery or a micro-site for the departed. there are already sites like this but dont just copy it. maybe you can add features like a wiki tool for biography and other posthumuous documentation. a sort of "reconstructing" the life story of the departed. Friends of the departed may upload pictures that are not in the album of the family. Certainly this drives traffic and selling despite its "morbidity" will be alot easier.

Cycko: Thanks for your commentaries and very helpful suggestions. I am still working on my curent website for this(that wiki tool is perfect) check http://ememorialcent...stead.com/index.html its not yet finished its a simple layout while my hands are still full on many things in tying up all the pieces specially the MOA on existing companies i will have link as resources product on line (at least 6 countries).
Of course i dont intend to just copy (there is none so far on my limited seacrh)..imitation will give shame on the very seed of this IDEA. but there is cost of being first.
Innovation is expensive. There are heavy often backbreaking cost of R&D and engineering. There are talent and facilities cost for product planning and technolgy... But since i am in Crowdsourcing here in CH i have a strong faith that they will come and offer their own hands. While, i do know to imimitate is simply to get piece of the action of an innovation that looks like a winner,still it is far fullfiling to make something new than redesign.
Again my worries is being copied than being first. To stay afloat while all wolves lurks around. For now (with the website development i started) i hope to skim the cream off the market and make a tidy profit before the competition arrives hahahaha.
To fellow Cambrian, stockholders and visionary, i welcome your contributions to forge this Idea prior to my project trip to the Bazaar.

Erratum: its http://ememorialcent...stead.com/index.html

ememorialcentral.homestead.com/index.html

still on trial basis

Saigon, my Man! lets collaborate on this idea... Hope somebody will back us up. This idea really have a market though.

..you need a lot of works in dealing with affilliated companies in other countries..better focus on at least 3 or 5 countries and assesed or see how it will be then...

over all its quite neat and discreet for such a business to buzz about.

jay69 is right though..you need more resources if you spread yourself too thin!

I check the website..its nice and effective.

I think it is a solid idea. It is not something that everyone would know how to handle and would almost always require some advice.

If the business could provide a through life (ignore the pun) solution (ie from shipping, legal aspects, etc...) then it would provide benefit and hence have a market.

I am unsure the size of the potential market .. but it is worth investigating.

Hi Saigon,
I just check out the website, it's cool and attractive. What you need is more buttons and think how to promote this website globally.

thanks everyone:

Am quite in dillema which one to focus on immediately to earn my first cool 1million hahahaha ...

Kidding aside, i intend to merge with an existing Marketing or enterprise to handle this hope you could join the bandwagon too if you have better suggestion to stop me selling this.

Do you have problems talking with the corporate Moguls in your country? I can arranged meeting if you want my Team to promote this.

Please send me your email and contact number.

Its not actually sweet since it has something to do with a "fear" most of us hate to talk about...but it make sense to me actually.

comrade saigon,

Tell me what can i do to realized this project.
I visit your website, it need to be polished.

All the best!

Hey Bro!

Where was the iPeg i heard much about?
Though this one hold a lot of potential, i thought you were leading as per your email and link indicated.

No worry you got my vote on this one too, and tell me how can we nail the market ASAP!

Honestly i dont have any idea if one member of the family will be needing this. From my experience and observation in my country we are just preyed upon by "sympathetic" instant warm neighbor and simply agreed on anything. Though my parents have insurances, I am not sure about possible details on ( oh i hate to say this) the burial.

This site will help a lot on people to prepare where ever they are, and avoiding future inconveniences among the living.

This idea was put into bazaar already but we would like to refined this better thru your comments.
Please feel free to give us more of your solicited advise!

Thanks WEng for the reality Check!
Its about time you prepare for your loved ones...

RJason: Ipeg is being taken care of by a rag team of weekend wizards lolz..for the time being check this IDEA and hope this one get an investor the soonest!

Hi Rhea,

Youre right and hope more of you of not the rest of people pysche get this under their skin and act now!

what hapen to your website carrying this?

Hmmm... this is very workable and no need for inventory nor expensive initial capital. The whole idea is simple and a possible silent blockbuster!

Interesting. Flashforward 40 years that's probably the what I would do. I think the entire industry is quite fragmented, but I'm not sure. I imagine it's very different from country to country. Starting with one country might be a start.

Saigon,

I haven't seen your website and from comments above I'm not sure it's still up, but that doesn't matter too much for the purpose of my comments.

It sounds like the core of your idea is a global directory of cemeteries. Or is "memorial site" a place where you could have a memorial marker without necessarily burying a person's body there?

I think this idea has potential and could be started very simply.

I suggest that you incorporate another idea which was proposed at least twice on CH by two different people (if I remember right), and that is the virtual memorial site. Many families have members who live far away from each other. Regardless of where a person's remains end up, having a memorial - or several - that all the family members could virtually visit, would be a comforting thing.

It is not exactly the same, but the Commonwealth War Graves Commission http://www.cwgc.org website is sort of along the lines of a virtual memorial.

Good luck. As far as I can see this would be a quick and easy thing to get started.

@CG_EOL: Yup, the previous site i personally layouted and designed ended its trial period. As it was paraded initially simultaneous to initial Weekly tournament this IDEA joined. We will eventually put a good one since we are already in the bazaar.

@Literate_Saint: Yes tas the beauty, no inventory nor high capitalization! Because EMC is only a conduit and acts like a salesmen for all the memorial sites we carries and affiliates ourselves in other countries.

@Noniesaft|: thanks!Definitely there is moneyhere...just sort of morbid to say the least but pre-need insurance is almost the same in essence. True we will be starting with at least 2 countries where we canave the best access and marketing partnership. I believe 6 countries would be ideal but more is not out of the question (Where global anyway see the other original IDEA name).

Jill,

Thanks for the suggestion. However we are not a virtual site though am not writing it off on my white table. We need traffic anyway and as CYcko said on his comment i need more micro-sites or other feature such as Orbituary Page, Flowers, and yes virtual cemetery to get traffic.(though there's a lot of VrtlCemtry up there) It is their 'regular" visit anyway that would plug in the sites to more business and site loyalty. I think the word "e" confuse this to a virtual site. I guess i need to change it back to Global Memorial Site. But if other have some name suggestion i have some spare Cambros to offer (that would be a good crowd sourcing practice here in CH).

BtW CH, can you incorporate my other (accidental) "duplicate" idea's comments to this IDEA? and delete the other? please...

This is very practical and everybody needs one. I just have a simple question by the way... If you will work on virtual office like this how about your taxes if you be able to closed deals in another country memorial properties?

A good one here!

and i agrees with Nonisaft...but i will be needing this few more years perhaps for the elderly members of the family who definitely woudlnt want to talk about this things..

Good idea - with an actual business plan and prospect for earning. I like it.

I understand that it's not a virtual site, but I think some ability to make a virtual visit would be a good add-on, as your initial pitch opened with the mention of people who live far away from their loved ones.

I realize your core idea is more to facilitate the logistics of arranging for physical memorial sites, which I take to mean cemetery plots, with possibly other types of sites as well.

Seems to me that your customers could be cemetery owners (you are providing them with marketing) and / or the individuals you first mentioned (you are providing them with local assistance in purchasing from a distance). Or both.

Hey Saigon how are u? How far have you come with this idea?

Thanks everyone for appreciating the solid merits of the business plan... i failed to mention on my inspiration that one summer when i was carrying some memorial plan(intended at first for my mom) some of my friends/clients wanted another Burial prop which am not carrying. This is the problem most on account executive or "consultant" for this product, you are tied up to your own company, but i have talked to Memorial Top executives about this, they have no problem for someone to sell their "inventory' but one cant expect full incentive an in-house marketing people are enjoying.

Jill:
-yes am servicing both, the end user and the Prodcut provider.

Rizal:
-how far? hmmm... i have tAp my country MAIN Product provider and they agreed in principle. NExt thing is an over-sea's MOA for the product provider to accept me as affiliates. Australia, Italy and mainland US is my target(whjere my fellow Filipino are heavily concentrated). I received an interested group from Canada to market this. Though i have the intention to sell this in the Bazaar(its already up there)... i still need to complete alot of things to make this a TURN KEY business for a VC to command a good price. ;-)

Saigon

...this SITE reminds me of things i need to do prepare next to my insurance.

I like this!

Thumbs up!

Am interested to market this business.

honestly? between the two idea you have here...this ones makes money and the other will earn you fame and recogition. Is this a grand design or what? Kidding aside i like this one though both have a lot of works to start with this one stand better and under sound business fundamentals.

All the best!

I don't see the function there are lots of other sites where you can track this info down. I don't think it would work.

Hi Saigon, I've been thinking about this idea more, and still really like it. I see it more as a booking and pre-planning service for anyone, not just those planning services in another country. There's a lot of potential here because it applies to everyone.

Right now in the industry, I see that people can buy gravesites online, and there are some preplanning services (http://www.wardfuner...TML/preplanning.htm) available. It's all very fragmented. What might help to build consumer confidence is to develop partnerships with some of the large funeral/grave site firms. Customers need to feel that they can trust what they are buying. This is imperitive where you have a product that differs from place to place and it is hard to prove what you see online is what you will be getting. That being said, it can be done. People buy travel packages online all the time, without knowing anything about their prospective destination or hotel.

OK as a person who markets for the internet there are many many obstacles to this business. Basically it is a real estate site. The real estate happens to be a grave yard but you are purchasing a plot of land. In order to have virtual tours pics and sales you would have to get all the "parks" to make video or upload pictures or you would have to go and get the pics themselves. You could do a flicker like ap that would aggregate the information but it would be difficult to find because people do not often generate content around these destinations. Most of these businesses are run by families and may not want to be aggregated in such a site and compared with competition. The final resting market is a delicate one. People do not buy travel packages without information all the time. More and more travel sites are reaching out for user generated content. I have built two real estate sites and a travel site for AAA in the United States. Also many people want to be with their families. If my father is in Golden Gables but I can get a better deal for Mom at Happy Forever on line I am sure someone will be pissed off.
You would need something like a profile page for each of the parks. It should be able to have video and picture uploads and you should be able to search by a variety of different factors price, country, religious denomination, room for additional people, shipping cost and other factors. It would not cost that much for the site I have most of the features built in a white label system. What would cost you is contacting all the graveyards you would need a massive sales staff. What I would suggest is that you build it for one country first, most likely your home country and then roll out to other countries. If you want to do this idea there are practical things to consider. Feel free to contact me if you like.

Hey, Saigon - I don't have much of a comment on your idea, but I wanted to let you know that I'm extremely impressed with your openness with the idea and intelligence you've used to answer each and every legitimate question. Keep it up!

thanks for the great comments guys:

@sole_cross: PM me on your email add pls.

@vizminda, MCaballes: greetings and appreciation dearly noted.

@kevin_cox: eMC is not an info provider, we broke the product from the provider to the clients (worldwide).

@noniesaft: WOW preplanning, i like it...my co filipinos are the most excellent group to set the standard. we attend our relatives/family burial by the troop, like its wedding or something since its another way of getting together and seeing each other again. hmmmm I never thought of the possible religious sensitivity issue. i believe the hotels can be tap for ads!

@nonodynamo: do a flicker like ap is a great suggestion. virtual 3d tour was on the making and on the original idea but was not inlcuded on the trail website. park profile is a good one=) though the shipping cost is something i dont want to touch on at the moment (but can be accomodated). Affirmative, am rolling this out first in my country with already 4 major product consortium (2 nailed, 2 for appointment) on the onset. i will definitely contact on the days to come. Lastly, the large sales staff is difinitely an operaitonal issue, thats why i will be needing VC and or patners.

folks am truly indebted on the wonderful comments, big and small contribution to make this IDEA well hammered to the bumpy road ahead.

A million thanks!

-saigon

Thanks Tweedle,
...replying is part of the tips CH provided for IDEAwarz! but if you can observed, the good thing in this crowdsourcing is, the members do provide real answers too since an author may not readily provides some issue and details. Comments are like jewels and real treasure for a business to prosper (or take off).

welcome aboard!

whats the latest saigon?... i been reading some ideas and seems you could start some collaboration with some guys around with cool ideas that can do great for your business concept here.

-true_daniel