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Set theory to visualize file system

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For operating systems, document management systems who don't have this feature the [product name] is a [product category] that [key benefit, compelling reason to buy]. Unlike [primary competitive alternative] our product has the better mathematical base.

The Idea

The set theory allows more than clear properties; it knows also the group of intersection. In classical hierarchical representations a hierarchical element is only in one group. A hierarchical element is group identification or group member. Science has cases where the assignment of information is not always clear to one group. E.g. a dual membership in the set theory is possible. In this case a mutual simple link connection is enough for a simultaneous opening of the group id in both hierarchy branches. When there are more than 2 group ids in the group of intersection the common link connection is the wrong thing. We need a list where group ids, links are saved and where the group id is inherent. The good thing is, that files are assigned only once in this group. File redundancy is impossible. The creation of the group of intersection as hierarchical element leaned on a database for data saving + structure illustration through table relations. A Relational Database can do it.

I thought of this idea when I was...

I solved a problem with the help of set theory and immediately I had the idea that it can be used for creating the file system.


Comments Posted

Joel_Carter
Joel_Carter Posted: September 20, 2006, 5:50 pm

It sound like you have Telsa, Einstien and Hawkins bouncing around in your mouth.

1. Deep breath.... let it go...
2 Now in laymans terms?
3 How does it make money?

thecougar
thecougar Posted: June 13, 2007, 6:10 pm

Are these ideas or are you just copying passages from your college textbooks?

jill
jill Posted: June 13, 2007, 8:29 pm

An old idea, I wonder if the proposer is still monitoring this thread. If so, please re-explain your idea. Thanks!

TheGuru
TheGuru Posted: June 13, 2007, 10:20 pm

I'm not sure what exactly you want to visualize that you expect set theoery will help. File names? content??

fossiloflife
fossiloflife Posted: June 13, 2007, 11:49 pm

am blinkin!

vanhees
vanhees Posted: June 14, 2007, 12:46 am

I need more information
Tommy

micco
micco Posted: June 14, 2007, 9:43 am

It's a good idea, but basically the same goal has been accomplished in other ways using relational databases and such. A lot of enterprise systems have a layer on top of the file system (e.g. Documentum, Sharepoint, etc.) which provides file tagging and all kinds of meta data assignment.

pantherswin
pantherswin Posted: June 14, 2007, 11:23 am

I dont get it at all!

GordonMcDowell
GordonMcDowell Posted: June 18, 2007, 12:32 pm

Please restate. Maybe by providing an example of a few files and how they might belong to sets? I don't get it.

Tom_4tune
Tom_4tune Posted: June 29, 2007, 9:53 am

A file can be in more than one folder but it exists only one file. And a folder can be in more than one folder, this is the group of intersection. Sorry, it is the filesystem and not only the vizualizing of the filesystem.

Tom_4tune
Tom_4tune Posted: June 29, 2007, 9:59 am

It is more than like a link on a file, as we have it in the operating system (Windows). Because when the file is moved from one folder to another folder the links on this file are not adapted. In my set theory case the "links" on the file in the concerned folders are adapted on the new folder where the file was moved.

GordonMcDowell
GordonMcDowell Posted: November 7, 2007, 12:03 pm

Is this what Be OS did (for a while) and Windows Vista was originally intended to do, build a file system on top of a relational database? If its not the same goal is it encompassed by doing that? (I am kind of lost by your description so this will help clarify.)

santabarbaralife
santabarbaralife Posted: November 7, 2007, 12:57 pm

You are missing the marketing component here, I'm confused. If you are an engineer, network with a sales or marketing pro on CH and make the pitch human.

siddey
siddey Posted: November 7, 2007, 7:45 pm

I read this the same as Gord does - sounds like a relational file system in which you create different views of the underlying data.

In reality it's no different to what you can already do within the top-end document management systems anyway, like Documentum and Filenet.

JelmerBV
JelmerBV Posted: November 8, 2007, 8:56 am

[I don't know if I understand what you mean, but I'll try]

I think this will be hard to relize, because;
1. You need to make your own OS
[OR]
2. You need to (for example [in Windows]) overwrite/make your own version of 'explorer.exe' and anti virus programs will not like it if you do that.

P.S. You should finish your Elevator Pitch; if you do, I'm sure I'll understand your idea better.

Rich2809
Rich2809 Posted: November 8, 2007, 1:58 pm

inocentive.com will be ideal for you Tom

micco
micco Posted: November 8, 2007, 3:15 pm

http://www.thebrain.com/

The software from TheBrain is a visualization tool, not necessarily a way to rework the underlying storage, but in a way that's pretty much true of everything until you get down the the part that's writing bits on the disc.

Goosie
Goosie Posted: November 9, 2007, 4:16 pm

Mulitply the hierarchical element , double the redundancy and divide this by three, I think you have niche.

arthaus
arthaus Posted: November 10, 2007, 9:26 pm

Wow. And how many ideas have you posted this round? This is kind of getting annoying to see the same person posting half-done ideas. Please, take your time to refine them! Do you even know what you're saying, because honestly it has to make sense to the average Joe/Jane to get anything good out of it.

Kevin_Cox
Kevin_Cox Posted: November 11, 2007, 5:04 pm

What in the world are you talking about in this idea?

Rich2809
Rich2809 Posted: November 12, 2007, 10:06 am

I have read this thing 10 times now and I still do not get it.

ccozad
ccozad Posted: November 12, 2007, 12:41 pm

I imagined my own idea based on the title, maybe I'll submit it sometime... the description you gave for the idea does not make any sense. Please spend some time forming a complete thought.

A stream of consciousness ramble from the middle of a thought doesn't make a very good description.

PhilipH
PhilipH Posted: November 13, 2007, 8:59 am

I have a science degree from the University of Cambridge. I understood your idea on the third reading. It has merits, though it will be difficult to implement as JelmerBV suggests, but you'll NEVER raise any interest unless you refine some of these ideas.

gzep
gzep Posted: November 13, 2007, 5:01 pm

Yes, it WAS a good idea! Been there, done that, in common daily use!

Most document management systems for large corporate projects allow you to manage files in this way.
Multiple tagging, copying meta-data, cross referencing, searching by parameters or SETS of parameters and tagging against different tasks, people and events is normal in that environment.

Ie: using set theory to tag and track files of any sort.

you need to make your point way more clearly, if you want to have any hope of getting votes.

dmc
dmc Posted: November 18, 2007, 7:29 pm

I think I can paraphrase the idea. You know how gmail has tags to categorize messages instead of putting them in folders? You can do the same for files on disk.

 

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