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Accurate journey times during rush hour

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All of the route planner sites I have used take no account of peak time delays. This idea is to allow people to mark using Google maps the delay they experienced on their route and the places where the delay occurred, especially if this is a known troublespot. This delay and the time it happened is built into a database which is then sold to traffic planning sites to allow them to build more realistic journey times. This will then cause these sites to present alternative routes if people are looking for the quickest journey time.

I thought of this idea when I was...

Trying to plan a journey and realising that the expected journey time was completely unrealistic given that I would be stuck in traffic for an hour at peak time.


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mccorkle
mccorkle Posted: July 19, 2006, 10:58 am

Ha! But what happens when we all find this service, and it tells us all to take the Hart bridge because the Buckman is full? Then the Hart is magically SLAMMED at lunch hour.

Two things you'd need to make this work.
1) real time knowledge of the traffic pattern and infrastructure to manage that
2) a system that knew how many people were using it that would direct people around the city in a balanced way taking into account immediately available data.

Just getting the data on traffic patterns would be a super costly job. You'd have to advertise a huge amount to make your money back ever.

Wolverene
Wolverene Posted: July 24, 2006, 9:11 pm

This idea Hovers us, mate.

kshex
kshex Posted: July 25, 2006, 3:38 pm

The time stuck in traffic may varry from day to day due to changes in weather and accidents and construction and so on, so it may never really be accurate.
And would people pay for this service?

motiggidy
motiggidy Posted: July 29, 2006, 3:05 pm

Well, as far as I can guess you are going to need a good number of people using your system before the data that they enter covers enough of the city for it to be useful to other people. You would also need these people to write down or somehow record these times at various checkpoints (such as every turn) along their route so as to actually pinpoint where the delays are occuring, so they need to take very good notes as they are driving. I do not know if there is any other way to do it.

By the way, I think this is a very good idea that many people (myself included) have had as they are sitting stuck in traffic wondering if only there were a way to know whether alternate route B would in fact be faster.

Julius
Julius Posted: August 4, 2006, 4:15 pm

Why would people take the time to put the information in the system?

Lal
Lal Posted: August 23, 2006, 4:49 pm

Does TrafficMaster (and similiar commerical providers) already do this?
Just that Google, mapquest and other FREE online mapping/journey providers don't hook into them (cost extra money). Maybe some of them do via an extra service charge?

More of an 'option' for some of the wireless mobile providers who are now offering drive-by-directions over your cell. As u're requesting this while on the move it would make more sense 2 offer real-time updates as well (xtra fee)

Also some of following sites "seem" 2 do what u propose

Also checkout
http://www.trafficland.com/services.php
http://www.silicon.c...4665,39119096,00.htm
http://www.trafficgauge.com/
http://toronto.ibegin.com/traffic/
http://www.timalmond.com/fetch-m4/
http://www.speedinfo.com/pages/index.htm

GordonMcDowell
GordonMcDowell Posted: August 1, 2007, 11:37 am

I was talking to a cabbie recently about how they plan their routes. He said they tried crazy-detailed mapping and routing software for a while, but it was ineffective because it couldn't compete with ingrained cabbie knowledge of the city (yes... some experience I've had in cabs would seem to contradict this, but I suppose you only remember the crazy-bad cabbies).

I'd agree with motiggidy that there is a chicken-and-egg problem here.

Possibly some data could be collected with GPS enabled cell phones. For example...
http://www.openmoko.com/

Driving around with that on (and plugged into car for power as GPS should drain battery quickly) would help build up data. But you'd need a LOT of adopters before any significant amount of data could be collected. I think only a telco is in a position to scrape enough quantities of phone movement data to make anything meaningful out of it.

fish99
fish99 Posted: August 1, 2007, 4:18 pm

cool idea but very difficult to do. complex with real time considerations.

Brenden
Brenden Posted: August 1, 2007, 6:45 pm

this is never going to work man... sorry traffic changed to quickly

saigon
saigon Posted: August 1, 2007, 10:33 pm

too difficult for a good idea (wishful thinking)...hope this would happen in my lifetime

anathema
anathema Posted: August 2, 2007, 2:17 am

It's difficult, but nevertheless possible. I think I would want a deal with a partner telco or motoring organization before committing too much time to it. I have spent many hours developing cool software with no market.

JoeMerchant
JoeMerchant Posted: August 3, 2007, 5:27 am

Great idea, being done a hundred ways right now - none terribly effective.

One huge issue is privacy of the people being tracked.... otherwise you could just sniff GPS data out of their cellphones like the NSA does....

PhilipH
PhilipH Posted: August 5, 2007, 10:37 am

My local radio station invites people to call in and report jams they're stuck in and broadcasts the results every 15 minutes during rush hour. People call in because they hear their reports being read out and know that they make a difference, and because they themselves use the reports day after day.

That seems to be a much more sensible way of doing this because the worst jams are those caused by accidents, roadworks etc that aren't predictable. Any system that can't give automatic real-time updates is inherently at a disadvantage in such a situation.

 

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