I think web 2.0 and CH are the missing link for ordinary people to contribute meaningfully in the new ways of creating wealth in this so called new economy.Cycko, Feb 2007

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For the common man who has a movie idea the FilmNotion is a website that helps movie ideas get noticed and down on paper (intellectual property). Unlike other sites that only allow you to send it in our product is user friendly and democratic.
My idea is for a site that would allow users to sign up and post any movie ideas they had as well attach a promo video much like the cambrian house website it would be much the same except the ideas would be for movie pitches, A user could write down a suggestion for a movie which would then be the property of that user. As well it would offer users the accesibility to gain feedback about their movie idea just as you give feedback on this very idea! It would allow people to get the most out of their movie idea and hopefully help them find others they can work with to take it to the next level (http://filmriot.com). They would submit movie pitches similar to my idea of "Kip in the City" a sequel to napoleon dynamite.
The redesigned filmnotion.com is now up and running check it out! and submit some ideas!
http://www.filmnotion.com/
Notes
-added poll feature (create a poll to get feedback)
-user accounts
-splash logo
-private messaging
-post vid
After coming up with movie ideas and nowhere to post them.
Good idea. I can see a definite need! I think the revenue model needs to be worked out, but you have a clear idea of what your market segment is.
Do it
Tommy
It seems like it'd work, though, I really can't see how many ideas would actually be picked up. It seems like, if anyone was going to use the ideas, it'd probably end up being indie film groups. Nevertheless, seems cool.
would anyone like to help me with this project?
kairaspo, I think this site would generate a lot of interest, but ultimately I don't think you can enforce ownership of an idea. George Lucas sued the producers of the original Battlestar Galactica show, claiming they infringed on the “Star Wars” copyrights. I think that was kinda nutty, but illustrates how hard it would be to defend anything other than a script, and specific lines of dialog using copyright.
I think the hardest thing isn't to come up with good movie ideas, twists, or character situations. Its about hammering out the script. If you can envision those people who collaborated on an idea continuing to work together to refine a script (maybe shared Google documents is the easiest approach), then your site will produce something that might be picked up.
i understand, so do you think it should be a google based site?
If I could find a suitable way to help, I would try to... what help do you need?
It's definitely a good idea.
If I could find a suitable way to help, I would try to... what help do you need?
It's definitely a good idea.
Nice one kairaspo. Do let us know when you start this one into a business and we shall be glad to help out wherever suitable.
Do check out the "Make a Movie" Idea posted in CH abou a year ago. Also, th CH is already having a couple of businesses running on similar (but not same) ideas. I am sure you can generate a buy in and take this forward. (Just type movie in the search bar and meet your like minds :-))
ok guys and gals once this enters the voting round if we win or even if we dont lets start production on this idea, we are going to need a domain and perhaps a better name? and some web designers revenue plans etc..
Good Idea, kairaspo... I especially agree with GordonMcDowell in that the continuation of work on the script is the tough part and the site should facilitate creation of the script/screenplay... maybe like the way that http://www.planhq.com allows people to develop a business plan except more community driven and collaborative.
In any case, I'd be happy to help in any way possible.
You should talk to the people at FilmLot: http://www.cambrianh...ter/ideas-id/6sYP43t
There could be some overlap here I think.
Maybe you could implement tools like an AJAX slideshow so that members can show their storyboards in that way.
Check out Filmlot.com
its down now but should be up any time
surely has a niche. i just cant see how viable this would hold on over time...
Sounds good to me. One challenge will be how to organize the various ideas. If they are just posted on a website without any structure, it would be quite useless. - You can extend this idea by using some of the story lines and have users collaborate on writing a script. Apparently there is a website out there that allows people to contribute to a novel. You might want to do the same thing except that you are developing a movie script.
sounds good thanks for all the support i think filmlot is more for independant and controlling and producing the film but our site would be more based on ideas as well as zentropy suggested to create online storyboards or short movie clips.
The original idea I had when thinking about this site is to democratize the creative process of filmmaking. Since I am currently doing a storyboard of an adaptation of a novel, with no contacts in the film industry, I am very interested in the idea of online storyboards. I envision the site as having different genres listed as well as current films and television shows to have forums to suggest different ideas for sequels, plot twists, scenarios, etc. There also could be a list of different novels that people would like to see adapted to film. One key person we would need is an intellectual property lawyer that would be willing to work for equity! I am positive as a creative person (artist, educator), that screenwriters would look at this site for ideas!
It's kinda close to FilmLot, but that's not to say we wouldn't value the competition :)
There is some overlap here perhaps we can integrate the two?
Thats what I was just thinking - I just looked at a site called movie idea pitch by Robert Kosberg, producer of 12 monkeys, etc. It's similar to what I'd like to see, only you have to buy the guy's CD, and fill in all these disclaimers so that he can sell your ideas to hollywood - this gets away from making it accessible and democratic to sell an idea, as he is a conduit for making it happen. I also looked at your site as well as "The Filmlot" site. Maybe we could merge sites, as I like the idea for funding independent films. I'm also trying to think up a name that isn't similar to anything out there . . . Again, my idea is that it makes it really tempting and easy for Hollywood to look at and purchase ideas.
Maybe you should talk to these folks:
http://www.cambrianh...ollaborativefiction/
On the purchasing of movie ideas, once I get my stories past first draft (part of why I'm going on leave from my job) I was planning to submit them here:
Awhile back I met an intern from a local production company and he said they can decide based on your first 10 pages whether or not they'll fund you to continue work on the script.
I see, our site is more based on a movie idea rather than the script. It is more a synopsis of the movie or storyboard or specific idea or scene.
very nice idea you get my 5 stars, i hope you can make this idea work because i already have some movie ideas just waiting to be posted on tis site
thanks for your support and we will get to making a site for your movie ideas
I'm with Andy...talk with him about integrating this aspect in his work. I see this as a part of his concept...viable but not able to stand on it's own imho.
i understand what you are saying but andys site is not well suited to ours. we need our own individual site i believe it will work and there will be a niche if it is done correctly.
perhaps us and andy could promote each others sites
I like it
me too!
thanks!
From my understanding of cinema the best films made (at least commercially) were usually based on novels. Say someone has a great idea for a film but thats like taking the first step of hundreds. A good idea doesn't easily translate into a solid story, engaging characters or other factors a movie needs. I believe theres tough competition from the authors who have already fleshed out those ideas into a complete stories.
I believe this could only be successful if the "idea" part is a portion of what
your site offers. There really should be a collaborative side to it so the idea can be fully evolved into something a movie creator would actually invest in/purchase.
that sounds like a good idea. perhaps users could also suggest novels that should be made into movies?
Thats a possibility but that requires a whole different level of commitment from the user. Reading a novel does take a while and if there was going to be popular opinion among the users they'd all have to read the same book. This would mean if you want original recommendations you would need a huge user base. Otherwise it would be a competition among the already popular books that everyones already reading. Which I'm sure the people in hollywood are already aware of.
So maybe a detailed summary of a novel that shows more than its concept you'd gather from the back of the book. The other possibility is to propose ideas at the first stage then collaboratively build a concrete plan/concept that a screenwriter/director can purchase the rights too and translate it too a movie.
do it! 4*
i like it. though i'm sure there will be overwelming amounts of people who post ideas but you might get something out of it. the only thing i'd be worried about is giving away too much about it in a pulic place but if people keep it short like the back of a novel then it could work well.
Oh my God, is this a necessary service. With the crap that Hollywood is putting out these days just about any random person off of the street could come up with a better idea for a movie than Hollywood has been doing. Hopefully it could later be expanded so that users on your site could write the movies as well.
Oh my God, is this a necessary service. With the crap that Hollywood is putting out these days just about any random person off of the street could come up with a better idea for a movie than Hollywood has been doing. Hopefully it could later be expanded so that users on your site could write the movies as well.
thanks steveszat.
great idea. i know a few screenwriters who would love the concept and opportunity to shop their scripts to actual industry people.
as to the comment that stevesat made....there are people who write great screen plays; Amelie, Waking Ned Devine, Calendar Girls....it's not all crap.
this could be useful especially to Canadian writers.
keep going with it
voxgirl
The guys at Film lot offer a better service for film makers. It's also more concrete. Perhaps you should join their team, as it's received a lot of support from the CH community.
Like it - is there a legal service you can use in case someone steals your idea?
kairaspo, yes...
http://www.moviepitch.com/
...is very interesting. I may be wrong that a 2 paragraph "pitch" would be enough to get a ball rolling.
But I SUSPECT a pitch typically is delivered for something with much more detail worked out.
If I was a producer, and I knew nothing about you, yes I'd want to hear a pitch. But I can't imagine ANY idea pitched to me that would maintain my interest when I then asked for a copy of the script so one of my pee-ons could read it, and you say, "there is no script" or "there is no book".
I mean there's thousands of unproduced scripts and existing stories in existence. I just can't get my head around the idea that a pitch has any value when there is no further treatment behind it.
i have also seen that site, it does not allow everyone to submit there ideas right on the site, ours will be more democratic and all people to post ideas on the site. There could also be scripts submitted too.
A good idea in theory, but I wonder how many industry people will actually be interested in it. It's a common situation - unless there are good ideas, the industry won't be interested; unless the industry is interested, the good ideas won't be submitted!
On the IP protection issue, copyright only protects the TERMS in which an idea is presented, not the idea itself. In other words, one can copyright a script but not a plot line. Unfortunately I can't think of any relevant type of protection - perhaps someone with better grasp of IP law can suggest something?
interesting concept.. I think that it has potential for unknown authors/script writers to become noticed.
if i am a producer why am i paying for ideas? i can just take them?
would this site be a good place for someone with one talent in the industry to match up with others that have the ones that she or he lacks; like say a screenwriter/aspiring filmmaker with no storyboard talent?
yes that would also work.
I love the site. Happy to see this is still going!
Thanks!, for all who didn't get the memo, FilmNotion (Beta i guess) is up and running check it out at http://www.filmnotion.com and submit some movie ideas!
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