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I have an idea that has won Idea Warz called WYSIWYG for Mobil:
http://www.cambrianh...er/ideas-id/ztlxeBg/

Now I need some help to build it.
Axe Web programming
Axe Flash programming
Axe Art and design
Axe Writers
Axe Investors
Axe Anything else to help.

All I ask is that you put in an hour of quality work every week. I am going to work on this idea for a few hours every week myself as well. I don't think I am asking for that much there are 168 hours in a week and you only would have to work for one of them.

All profits from the idea will be split equally, based on how much you worked or invested. All, money invested in this idea will be used towards this idea, the users investing will be told exactly how there money is spent. Post what you can work on today.
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I'm sorry I don't have time to contribute right now. Just a thought, have you looked at TinyMCE? It's an open-source web-based WYSIWYG editor. You might be able to extend it to do the mobile validation rather than starting from scratch.
http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/

I've used TinyMCE on a couple of web-based projects and liked it's functionality. I've never dug into the inner workings because it did what I needed but it's a Javascript AJAX framework so it should be easy to extend.
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"I'm sorry I don't have time to contribute right now. "
You don't have to do it right now. I am only asking for an hour of time contributed someday in a week.

Thanks, for the link never seen it before. Even, though that is was not exactly what this idea is aiming to do. It seems like a nice tool to extend to use with this idea.

It might be easier for me to show after I make a few prototypes. Anyways, back on topic anyone want to actually help make this idea work.
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Well, anyone out there?
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I'd love to help but this is not my field
Success
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I can try to help you with the web programming, but I only can do 'Old Skool' (X)HTML and CSS (and a little bit Flash [with some actionscript]), no PHP/MySql or any other kind of databases [a.k.a. Web 2.0 stuff].
I don't know what the "Anything else to help." tasks are, but if you need me, I'm pretty sure I've one free hour every week. =)
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Good enough... Are you any good with using things like iframes?

I will post some stuff about my progress in a bit. I have done some work on the idea already as promised and have a got a simple little prototype working.

In addition I made a white board mockup to show how I was thinking the site should work and look. My next step is to part off the jobs into smaller projects and work loads.

I will post some stuff soon. Anyways, if anyone else is interested in helping out I would like to hear from you.
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I'vedid much with normal frame-tag, I just read a tutorial about iframs and it looks like it's almost the same as normal frames so I'm sure I can work with it. (All the new pages I make are without frames, that's why I never have used iframes yet)
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Just found out:
frame = iframe [at least; for the purpose I use them for]
[They just like to use shiny names apparently... Well; they are not completely the same, but more like Frame 2.0]

So, yes, I certainly can work with iframes.
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White Board Images:
http://usera.imageca.../WhiteBoard-Mobile1/

I still need to set up the host server for my prototype. So, I will post that later.

So, still looking for users to join. If you are interested tell me about it.
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I'll build you a logo.
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I've made a small test page to put the test site I've made on. (I just started with it; I hope you're Ok with it.)
http://jelmerbv.50webs.com/chtest/
Currently it only contains a temporarly test page which I made to test iframes, but when I've finished a better testpage I'll upload it here.

The iframe on the right (with the border) is supposed to become the advertisement frame. [If you click on the CH logo this forum thread will be loaded in the frame]
The iframe on the left (without border) will contain the actual site.
I'll add a (sort of) background later.
You can ignore the two 'j's on top (I was trying to do the same page without iframes, but iframes are working better)

Edit: [4-9-2008 17:05 (GMT+1)]
I've updated the testpage again, does it look a little bit like you want it to? (except for the background which still looks like...)
This testpage is just still some sort of sketch, so I can easily change something when you want me to.
I think I'm going to have trouble with the virtual keypad (especially because I don't know anything about surfing on a mobile phone [I can only call with my phone].)
So any information you've about how you want it to be/should be is welcome
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There any particular reason for using iFrames? Normally I avoid them like the black plague.

Me == CSS/Div Nazi

So, about that logo... what sort of vibe/feel/whatever are you looking for here? Techchic? Slick? Web2.0?

Happy
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No, not really.
But I'm not really a div-fan [I only use them because of XHTML 1.0] but neither am I a fan of iframes, so I just choose iframes in this case because it would look the most like the white board (in my eyes) and it's easier/faster to just reload the main iframe instead of the complete page.

But if you think it should be different, feel free to download all the files of the testpage and change them. This page was only a sort of skecth.
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There any particular reason for using iFrames? Normally I avoid them like the black plague.

Well I was only planing on using iframes for the preview area for the mobile phone. So, users could view the page like it would if it was in a small format screen of the phone model or standard size.

CSS is the best choice for the rest of the pages.

So, about that logo... what sort of vibe/feel/whatever are you looking for here? Techchic? Slick? Web2.0?

Well web2.0 style, except not toy like. Preferably not reliant on text, more like an image icon.

* Glossy reflections/Glass reflections
* Thin dark outline
* Thin highlighted second inner outline
* Lit from above with the light source slightly to the left
* Scalable (Needs to be recognizable when small)
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groovy, I'll start mucking around with images and iconography. I sent you a message with some name suggestions as well.
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For the website, what colors do you want?
(I'll try to turn the iframes into divs if this 'lay-out' (the colors and fonts will also be changed to your preferences off course) is ok, but it can take some time before I've completely figured out how to do it)
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I have thought about it, and it would make a lot of sense for us to use a CMS. Mostly because there could be less new coding we would have to do and it would make it easier to manage.

I am thinking:
http://www.drupal.org

As far as color scheme I will have to get back to you on that. I will have to make a few color palates.

Colors that I am thinking about using:
Dark:
Background colors: Chocolate, rich darks and shades of black.
Fonts colors: golden, white, pink, blue, red, orange, silver.

Light:
Background colors: slightly off-white, green, blue, gray, orange
Fonts: pastels

Design elements make use of highlight feature of font.
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I suggest Joomla over Drupal, just a personal choice.
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I have used them both. So, here is the reasons behind my decision.

Drupal:
* Way better SEO for search sites. (Higher page rank)
* Simple interface, don't have to mess with that much. Its easier to configure.

Joomla:
* More dramatic content and Advanced features.
* More support with professional online community.

The site is going to be simple, so the smaller footprint of Drupal is a plus. So, unless there is another better reason behind using Joomla. That or if any of any of you guys is uber pro at using a particular CMS. I think it is currently the best choice for this site.
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I once swore I wouldn't do another Drupal site, but I keep working with Drupal sites anyhow. Happy

Drupal's cool, but I find it's backend tends to be pretty heavy compared to Joomla. Probably not a big issue until the site is getting hit with 10,000 page views a day. Then you need to look at colo in a serious way, just to get the hardware up there. Being a designer/themer I also find Drupal's markup exceptionally clunky and difficult to theme. Contemplates help, but still... just my 2 cents on Drupal. I will avoid the full rant. Happy

I have less time in Joomla, but I would bet they have a similar issue.
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Anything to say on the topic JelmerBV? What do you feel best with using Joomla or Durpal?

I don't mind if we use Joomla or Durpal its just we have to pick one an stay with it.
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I never have used one of them so far. (Because my webhost doesn't support things like that [I don't have a professional site, so I've chosen for a free hoster] and I like it to make the complete site myself)
According to the site they are both easy to use and learn, so I don't have a preference.

P.S. The test page is using DIVs now; I'll now trying to make a demo for the digital phone. (Will also try to make one of your color scheme ideas to see how it will look)
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Simple little Prototype:
http://mobile.pod.0lx.net/
This kind of shows how the site will work a bit. But, note I have much better GUI and tool functions I am planning out.

Name for the site: if anyone has name suggestions for the URL pm me with them. (Note: Please, do not post them in the open!)

Want to join: Anyone, else want to join the group and help out with stuff?
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